Poll: Do conservatives need to break away from the Republican [and Democrat] party?

A Daily Poll ^ | July 8, 2009 | Dave Miller (tenger)

[tenger]

Do conservatives need to break away from the Republican [and Democrat] party? A Daily Poll.

[SoCalPol]

The DU haw been given their marching orders to
crank up the third party loons on FR.

They can’t hack it that Gov. Palin has great support especially on FR, so it is the old divide the Republicans
so Obama wins again

[cranked]

Right, and if a “Teddy Roosevelt” ran in 2012?

Times then are different from the times today, and despite your legitimate doubts to the contrary, given the growing discontent among voters towards Dems and Repubs, as illustrated in recent pollings that indicated that people/voters are increasingly shifting more and more to identifying themselves as Independents rather than Dems and Repubs, I would argue that people/voters are grwoing increasingly open to the notion of a 3rd party given an acceptable alternative or candidate(s).

[Controlling Legal Authority]

Have you considered the Republican Party circa 1860?

[americanophile]

What voters? There’s only one political spectrum...so you either carve voters out of the left or the right. Whichever side you carve more out of loses. If you think you can take the middle, go ahead, but to what end? You’ll simply get a smaller version of what you have now.

[Lilpug15]

Oh, I know - and I’m excited! :) ditto on the 3rd Party stuff

[SoCalPol]

Why don’t you just vote for Obama as that is the outcome of third parties dividing Republicans.

24/7 Liberal News
Vast majority who grad from highschool and Univ.
are Liberal
Union workers, majority liberal.

Third parties are lucky to get 2%

Just enough to swing an election to Obama

[americanophile]

Yes, it emerged within the context of a far more multipolar system - Federalists, Democratic-Republicans, Whigs, Democrats, Know-Nothings, Constitutional Unionists, etc, etc. In the modern era, since the establishment of the two major political parties, each rought corresponding to one side of the political spectrum, no 3rd party has amounted to anything.

[drubyfive]

Third parties on the right or left are doomed, but one in the center is possible. RINOs and DINOs together might win. The GOP would then be a pure conservative party.

[SoCalPol]

and pigs would fly if they had wings.

[Earthdweller]

"In the modern era, since the establishment of the two major political parties, each rought corresponding to one side of the political spectrum, no 3rd party has amounted to anything."

I wonder why that is./s

[drubyfive]

Under my scenario, where the RINOs voluntarily leave, the trick will be getting them to do it. Putting in Sarah as the leader might one way.

[JSDude1]

Tactically it would be a dumb thing, since it would cost conservatives in districts, unless used sparingly and locally/regionally at first.

2ndly I think the best course of action for Conservatives would be to 1) Win Republican Primaries wherever they can, 2) Where there are overwhelming Democratic Party Reg (with no chance of R win, then Run as Independent Conservatives and 3) Where possible run in the Democratic Party as well, hopefully win a few..isn’t the goal here in politics in government to move the country in a more “right” direction no matter which party we use, anyway..

[SkiKnee]

A bigger problem for third party candidacies is the monopolistic control of ballot access created by Repulicans and Democrats. These two parties have passed laws demanding higher filing fees, and huge petitioning requirements that ensure third parties will expend time and resources just to get on the ballot. Time and resources that could be better spent campaigning.

[ballplayer]

Conservatives have been Persona Non Grata in the Republican Party for awhile so they might as well leave

[jaydee770]

americanophile wrote:Third parties don’t work, never have. Its the fastest way to elect Democrats.

Unless you are Green/Nader who was accused (rightly or wrongly) of spoiling the chances of Gore and Kerry and giving the GOP the win.

Still, the environment is vastly different and the GOP has repeatedly proven itself impotent and ineffective. Do you need more evidence than Obama and a majority Dem congress?

I doubt a new party could do much worse and the time could not be riper. I say strike while the iron is red-hot!

[PhiKapMom]

You are so right that the 3rd Party types are not there to grow a party except to split the GOP. When they run someone for Senate like in MN, it gave us Franken because they take votes away from the GOP candidate every time.

People got suckered by Perot and should remember it gave us 8 years of Clinton.

If they spent the time trying to change the GOP from within instead of splitting it, we would all be better off which makes me wonder about all the 3rd party talk on here — what is the motive. We know we have Dem trolls. It is so obvious most of the time.

[TADSLOS]

Already happening.

[mysterio]

I will vote for non-statist candidates that make restoring the Constitution a top priority. If those candidates are not Republican, that’s fine.

[americanophile]

I doubt a new party could do much worse and the time could not be riper. I say strike while the iron is red-hot!

Change you can believe in? The only thing a new 3rd party will do is split the right and ensure Democrat victories, you can take it to the bank.

[jaydee770]

Change you can believe in? The only thing a new 3rd party will do is split the right and ensure Democrat victories, you can take it to the bank.

It is entirely possible that a new party will not succeed the first time out and it will definitely split the vote with the GOP. But like I said, it can not *possibly* produce worse results than the GOP has given us (Obama and a majority dem congress). Folks who think that somehow they can magically reform the GOP are delusional. That monstrosity has decades of deeply entrenched in-breeding that couldn't be dislodged with a train load of TNT. So, if you are a big fan of the GOP's McCain/Specter/Snowe/etc track record, then best of luck to you. I don't wish you ill will, but I don't hold much hope for you either.