POLARIK springs some startling news re McCain's birth certificate.(interesting read)

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2442810129&frmid=6022&msgid=1028547&cmd=show ^

[Frantzie]

The Dems did this to prop McCain up because that is who they wanted to run against - a loser who if he by some means won - would be a Dem anyway.

If this jerk off RINO Juan McCain had been bounced - we might have gotten Fred or even Rudy or Mitt - with Fred being my first choice.

[Smokin' Joe]

McQueeg came out of Colon...

Aha! I thought so all along...

[Vendome]

I will try to upload a couple of BC’s in the next day or so.

They will show what a long form birth certificate looks like from various states and even years apart.

This should give people a pretty good idea that long form BC’s have not changed much from year to year.

Should be interesting to see what happens then.

[El Gato]

Doesn't being born to a United States Citizen Mother and a United States Citizen Father, as long as one parent has lived in the U.S., make the baby a natural born citizen, regardless of the location of birth?

It makes the child a citizen at birth, but that is not the same as a natural born citizen. The fact is, no one knows where the edges of the definition of "Natural Born Citizen" lie. They all know that born on US territory of two citizen parents makes one natural born. But either having only one US citizen parent, especially when that is the mother, or being born outside of US territory, is a horse of different color.

[El Gato]

Wait a minute, there were no hospital facilities in the Canal Zone itself. All children of Service members in Panama were delivered at the hospital in Colon

Your evidence for this is? I'm sure there was at least a dispensary or clinic in the Zone, and in fact on the naval base itself. In 1936, lots of babies were not born in hospitals. Doctors actually made house calls and delivered babies at home.

The hospital I was born in delivered no babies until after WW-II, just a few years before I was born. But they'd been in existence since somewhat before 1900.

[El Gato]

BTW, did anyone think to ask McCain’s mother where he was born? She, unlike BHO’s grandma, was not kept under wraps, but actually made campaign appearances with her son.

[thecodont]

The fact is, no one knows where the edges of the definition of "Natural Born Citizen" lie. They all know that born on US territory of two citizen parents makes one natural born.

We are exploring the crispy brown edges of our Constitution.

[thecodont]

BTW, did anyone think to ask McCain’s mother where he was born? She, unlike BHO’s grandma, was not kept under wraps, but actually made campaign appearances with her son.

Could you or someone else please refresh my memory? I don't recall that GWB raised the NBC status of McCain during the 2000 election. If he did, I don't remember reading of it.

[calex59]

McCain wasn’t elected President. Who cares what his BC says.

[Polarik]

I have the same copy, but of much better quality. Both Photobucket and Yahoo Mail are down right now, so I cannot access it just yet).

This copy is a COMPUTER FORGERY!

The evidence is all over it.

My God. Am I the only one who look at things under magnification???

I can clearly see the UNDERLYING TYPEWRITING, as well as GHOST LINES from a different form, right there, in the boxes for Father’s and Mother’s birthplace.

C’mon, people. How about somebody else play Polarik for a change?

[autumnraine]

Polarik, we are LIVING “Wag the Dog”.

[Polarik]

Here's my copy of McCain's alleged BC:

Look at these areas under magnification.
Everywhere you see an arrow is either a letter or a ghost line
from another, underlying document:

[Polarik]

I forgot to mention that I put an arrow pointing to the flair on the letter "A" in "USA" to indicate that this is a modern typeface.

[bvw]

McCain was born to two US citizen parents while the father was in service to his country traveling abroad. thus even if McCain had popped out of Mom McCain in the middle of the Capital Plaza of the the nation Panama — he would still be a natural born citizen.

Obama’s dad was a native and lifelong permanent resident of British colony Kenya which became a separate nation some years after Obama was born. Obama’s dad was never a US citizen. That fact ALONE means that Obama can never be considered a “natural born citizen”, since Obama inherited a birth loyalty and citizenship of his Dad.

[Grampa Dave]

“Wait! There’s more!”

“Not only is the typeface on it from a Selectric IBM.”

Did Blather sell his infamous Selectric to these clowns or did he and Mary Mapes do the “Selectric” stuff on this colb?

[cripplecreek]

Wow, talk about obvious.

So what’s the deal? Are you saying that this McCain certificate was a forgery that was made to intentionally raise questions?

[Las Vegas Ron]

I'm no expert but it looks to me like the fonts in the letters “USA” all look modern (father and mothers birth place) especially when compared to the “A” in Panama

[Non-Sequitur]

I forgot to mention that I put an arrow pointing to the flair on the letter "A" in "USA" to indicate that this is a modern typeface.

Not surprising, considering the document was typed in March of 1980.

[azishot]

When I look at “U S A” it appears ‘crisper’ and darker than the mother’s and father’s name.

Is that what you mean?

[thecodont]

Wow. Just wow.

Thanks for posting the details.