Posted on 07/05/2009 4:30:16 PM PDT by Publius772000
On April 15, while many Americans were filing their taxes or their extension requests, thousands rallied across the country to protest the government’s perceived abuses of the Constitution. In Texas, Gov. Rick Perry spoke at a rally which featured angry cries of “Secede!” from the crowd of Lone Star citizens.
“We’ve got a great union” Perry, a Republican, said Wednesday. “There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.”
Perry’s comments have received harsh criticism from Texas Democrats, including State Rep. Jim Dunnam, who claimed that talk of secession was akin to supporting racial division and anti-American sentiment.
“Talk of secession is an attack on our country,” Dunnam said. “It can be nothing else.”
Journalist Geraldo Rivera called the governor’s statements “grossly irresponsible” and said Perry was placing himself in position for possible impeachment. Others have claimed Perry was trying to make a national impression to set up a potential run for the presidency in 2012.
On Friday, The Dallas Morning News reported that a poll of 500 Texans showed 31 percent believed they had the right to secede, and 18 percent would vote for secession if given the opportunity. The Morning News stated that those who believed Texas had a right to secede were “incorrect” in that belief, using the outcome of the Civil War as proof of the illegality of secession. Or, as they might have said, might makes right.
While news outlets like the Morning News have used the fact that 82 percent of Texans would not vote to secede as proof that the people had no real interest in the idea, the fact that 18 percent would do so today should at least beg more discussion.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconstitutionalalamo.com ...
Since I believe the two "last straws" that will lead to serious confrontation are federally implemented gun control (i.e. confiscation) and amnesty, I thought this article might now be appropriate to re-introduce.
Thanks for reading!
And for those who may pose the question of Texas v. White, I have addressed that issue in the comments section following the article, dismissing it as a politically charged misuse of Supreme Court authority.
Texas is looking better!
For later...
The Author has it correct:
“In the years leading up to the Civil War, the Southern states also saw their voting power diminish further and further until they had no influence over laws, such as tariffs, which directly affected their region in a very negative way. Southerners were also labeled as extremists by the abolition movement, which characterized the entire region of the South as being pro-slavery, even though most Southerners did not own slaves.
This national influence, not slavery, was the driving impetus for the South to secede. As Confederate Maj. Gen. John B. Gordon wrote in his memoirs, even after the Civil War had begun, “the South could have saved slavery by simply laying down its arms and returning to the Union.”
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The last Civil war was not fought because of slavery.
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If the senate approves the Cap & Trade legislation, the nation will see the same circumstances. And it will not simply be Texas. Tax the oil producing states to support the favored government dependent states. This will come to a head quickly if this is passed. They should consider well their actions as they approach the abyss, once over the edge it is a long fall.
I’m in Texas and believe it’s the best place to be right now... I think if obamanation continues to abuse the citizens of America that, Americans will pull away... let him have his chicago and dc .....
btt
Secession? Unlikely. Now, a Soviet-style collapse, that’s a different story.
That said, I like the idea of succession! If necessary, my family and I would move to Texas or Alaska.
I agree completely. I wrote this piece months before cap-and-tax and the health care debate. I believe cap-and-tax’s restrictions and additional cost to industry and the consumer will definitely stir the pot. The reason I singled out amnesty is the same reason Dick Morris’ new book does: it will mean the entrenchment of those who are passing unconstitutional laws, marginalizing the conservative movement.
Liberals, of course, would say conservatives are already marginalized, but that’s understandable, given that they’ve already bought in to an unconstitutional, Marxist agenda that will strip our nation of economic and military influence.
Make that secession, instead!!!
Why does fox think that anyone wishes to know what Geraldo says or thinks
True, but the Soviets had no real movement within their political or social structure that sought to preserve some sort of constitutional—or in their case, czarist—tradition. I think that before the American people allow their nation to be fully plunged into the depths, there will be states that at least explore the idea. We know what it is to be free, and we will not give up our freedom without struggle. Or, I hope we do not.
That being said, I hope secession is as unlikely as you say. It obviously would not be a positive chapter in our cultural history. It may, however, be an eventual necessity if we are to keep our founding principles intact.
Throw the race card when you have nothing else.
Typical leftist scum.
I'm not all that sure about that as Texas will be a Democratic state by 2020.
I have been on several threads in the past 2 months discussing the root cause of the last Civil War, and it’s relationship to current circumstances. And was flamed badly by people who purported to be authorities on “history” about my statements. Such discussion does not change the facts.
Most of my ancestors was literally burned out of Alabama during Reconstruction under the Radical Republicans after that War. That is how we came to Texas. (some of my ancestors were here during the Republic)
Either the 10 th Amendment movements check the huge unconstitutional power grab by the Commies, or other actions will take place.
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Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston
Secession will not happen for several reasons:
The various States are tightly economically interdependent on each other. This economic relationship is facilitated by the Federal union via mechanisms such as a common law, shared infrastructure, common currency, etc.
The citizens have been conditioned over the past one hundred and fifty years to think of themselves as Americans first and maybe citizens of their respective States second. This sentiment is also fostered by increased mobility in the population -- i.e., the citizens of any one particular State are unlikely to be natives of that State, and an average American may live in many States over the course of his or her own life time, in addition to having family spread out throughout various other States --, which has homogenized the culture and decreased loyalty to individual States over the Federal union.
What's more likely, as I noted in a previous post, is a Soviet-style collapse in which the Federal union in Washington is rendered impotent, and the various States are left adrift to fend for themselves. They will form alternative compacts, however, in such a case. Some will return to the Constitution, while others could go their own ways.
I did not realize that Sam Houston was a Hero of the Confederacy.
If Texas secedes I may move to Texas.
I agree...I’ll be on my way
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