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1 posted on 07/02/2009 6:22:57 AM PDT by steve-b
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Oh Geez, a moral yo yo on the loose.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 6:25:54 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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Yes. Let play nice like Dick and Jane. Because its working out so well for us. (/s)


3 posted on 07/02/2009 6:26:24 AM PDT by abishai
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The difference, Mark, is that the GOP House members who voted for the bill are traitors (if not to the country, then certainly to honesty and common sense), whereas General Petraeus is not. Get it now?
4 posted on 07/02/2009 6:27:07 AM PDT by clintonh8r (General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?!)
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The article said — My main point in raising the issue was not that the word choice itself was grammatically incorrect, however, but that it is evidence of a growing number of people on the Right succumbing to the temptation to use the same vile rhetorical weapon so often deployed by the Left....

Ummmm..., I can attest to that, right here on Free Republic, with some posters responding to my posts... LOL...

You ask what I was saying? Well, glad to oblige...

While trying to talk some “sensibility” into some posters here, about the craziness of the idea of tanks surrounding the White House and evicting Obama, or about the other idea of some judge in the U.S. sending over a U.S. Marshall to the Oval Office to arrest Obama — you should hear what the responses are... :-)

I mean, “talking sense” and pointing out the method for getting rid of a President is Impeachment and Conviction — is enough to get you “tarred and feathered” right here on Free Republic... LOL...

So..., yes, I’ve sorta noticed the “slide to the left”... indeed...


5 posted on 07/02/2009 6:29:15 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Hey Mark could you at least close the bathroom door when you are in there pleasing yourself!!


6 posted on 07/02/2009 6:30:19 AM PDT by McBuff
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The GOP needs to learn how to fight. How to spit. How to gouge eyes. How to kick the enemy below the belt. Until the GOP starts fighting like a wildcat, we have no hope.


8 posted on 07/02/2009 6:30:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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I believe Alinksy also said the enemy should be held to the highest of his own standards, else he's a hypocrite.

And clown's like this play right into his hand

9 posted on 07/02/2009 6:33:12 AM PDT by Pessimist
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Sorry Mark, but if you get out of your little DC cocoon and deal with the public (ie, the vulgar mob), that is exactly how they communicate and think. In some of the lowest basest terms. Appealing to their “intellectual” won’t work because it just isn’t there.


10 posted on 07/02/2009 6:34:45 AM PDT by Clock King
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Q. What is the difference between folks on the Right calling the eight Republican House members who voted for Obama-Waxman-Markey the "cap-and-traitors," and the infamous "General Betrayus" ad bought by the Left's Moveon.org in The New York Times.
A. One is true the other isn't.
11 posted on 07/02/2009 6:35:33 AM PDT by dblshot
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Alinsky’s methods work for those on the right as well as on the left. Maybe better, Obama does not handle ridicule very well and to be laughed at would seriously unhinge him.

I’m not advocating foul language, but I do think that an activist on the right should bone up on Saul’s work.


12 posted on 07/02/2009 6:38:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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I think we should ADOPT the Saul Alinsky playbook, not RESIST it.


13 posted on 07/02/2009 6:40:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Too sick for words!)
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Mark, you stay in camp and watch the food stores. Let others deal with a problem..... your way of thinking will surely cause all of us to pay dearly for generations.
If anyone or anything comes into camp, blow this whistle while running so we know it's you.
16 posted on 07/02/2009 6:42:54 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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different rules for different people. If its an R, its a scandal, if its a D its ignored.

I am sick and tired of the double standards

17 posted on 07/02/2009 6:43:15 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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I agree that we ought not use silly and foolish terms of opprobrium simply for the purpose of mocking our adversaries on the Left. I would far prefer we use accurate and honest descriptions as opposed to ad hominem attacks on one hand, or euphemisms on the other.

For that reason and as an instructive example, I would never refer to the New York Times as either "idiotic" or "misguided", when the truest appellation would be "traitorous".

20 posted on 07/02/2009 6:50:18 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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Playing nice is exactly what the Democrats expect of us.

The Rats will Bully us till we fight back. And we must.

sw

22 posted on 07/02/2009 6:53:25 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ) (Who will lead us?)
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Ha! He says they (the left)are vile and vicious which means they are capable of any kind of underhanded tricks and falsehoods, name calling and false accusations.

They deserve the names we call them because they are true. Certainly the author understands how awful they are and simply dividing their behaviour into categories of awfulness(traitor) is putting the specific to his general observation.

The irrational left was hysterically screeching about a Christian president who prayed and read the Bible who had us under a theocracy. Now we have a certifiable ecocracy taking shape, with the goal being not to repower America but to power America down because of our appetites and excesses(in their view). We really are in trouble here. It is not hysterical to call it what it is...

The right can do that as long as it is true. In my opinion of course.

24 posted on 07/02/2009 6:56:00 AM PDT by Kay Syrah
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BS!!!

We are effectively faced with a classic, long-term leftist insurgency. This isn't rocket science. You can't win a counterinsurgency with conventional tactics. Don't think the left doesn't know what they are doing.

They're just forcing their enemy (us) into using conventional tactics in the name of "fairness", and "propriety", while they figuratively gut our village elders in front of our eyes to terrorize us and shut us up.

We have to fight them with their own methods, but apply our own imagination and our own dirty tricks. We have to be willing to get our hands dirty.

I have no problem being "uncouth" in my dialog with liberals leftist radicals. It's the only language they understand.

27 posted on 07/02/2009 7:07:22 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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Mark Tapscott is stuck in a Time Warp. This is not 1980 and the left ain't the left of 1980, so back then Reagan could be Reagan. But Mark, 'we aren't in Kansas anymore more'.

There's two old rules, 2,500 years old, that still hold true today and will beat Alinsky's 'rules' anytime.

  1. "If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."
  2. "If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril."
In the recent past the GOP has followed rule #2 and its shown. The left are street fighters Mark, not members of a Debating Club. There's times when you have to get 'down and dirty' - You HAVE to 'know your enemy'. And that's just the way it is.

Btw, Mark those quotes are from Sun Tzu's, 'The Art of War'. It's still studied at the Army War College today. Maybe YOU should read it too!

I finished reading 'the book' a while back and I'm now half way through the included 'Study Section'. Its 'almost' the best present I ever got. Especially considering 'these times'.

32 posted on 07/02/2009 7:24:49 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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I believe that the election losses have dispirited and demoralized people that would otherwise reject these sorts of tactics. I hope that they will reject them again in the future. I know that people believe the elecetion was the death knell for America but I also believe that this too shall pass.


38 posted on 07/02/2009 7:43:41 AM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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Reagan was a happy warrior and total gentleman. But he employed Lee Atwater, the most hated political consultant till uber Satan Karl Rove.


52 posted on 07/02/2009 9:52:31 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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