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A world without America would be an evil place
Telegraph Blogs (U.K.) ^ | May 19, 2009 | Ed West

Posted on 05/19/2009 11:02:52 AM PDT by Schnucki

On my first trip to the United States, aged 22, I was in a bar in New York, where a young Democrat lady from the Mid West started apologising to me about America's foreign policy and dominance of Europe and the world, McDonald's, Reagan etc.

She was a bit shocked when I turned on her, explaining that the only reason we could sleep safely in our beds in Europe, without fearing a knock at the door and a "come wiz us, please, comrade", was because Truman, Ike and co had chosen not to leave us to our own mess in 1945. I'd been to East Germany, I'd been to Czechoslovakia - if the USA was an empire, it was the best God-damn empire the human race had ever produced.

But I accept there are many people who don't share my enthusiasm for the nation of John Adams and Benjamin Franklin, and as a result there's quite a market for people predicting the downfall of the world's greatest democracy, a fantasy shared by America's enemies abroad and white supremicists at home.

So many will take heart that Russian academic Igor Panarin predicts that the United States is on the verge of collapsing.

"There’s a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur," he says. "One could rejoice in that process,” he adds, poker-faced. "But if we’re talking reasonably, it’s not the best scenario — for Russia. "Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July,

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: america; globalcommunism; lastbesthope; reagan

1 posted on 05/19/2009 11:02:52 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

From where I stand, the title needs correction ... “A world without America would be an even more evil place”


2 posted on 05/19/2009 11:06:31 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Schnucki

A Russian talking about the USA collapsing is quite comical. He must be a daily reader of that communist propaganga, Pravda. True, we are not in great shape right now, though.


3 posted on 05/19/2009 11:09:22 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: Schnucki

If you listen to the far-left and those are international liberalists long enough, you will find that they believe to the contrary: the world would be a better place without the U.S. (and Israel).


4 posted on 05/19/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by cranked
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To: chippewaman

Our current president has stated many times that America’s best days are behind us (if he can help it).

We live too high on the hog, use too much of the world’s resources, need to disarm our military (dismantle the nukes and end future weapons program development), and need to understand the post-American world.


5 posted on 05/19/2009 11:12:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: Schnucki

That’s pretty much the answer I got from a German teen about 18 years ago. I asked what he thought about having American military in Germany all these years after WWII. He said they are thankful for America during the war and thankful we are still there. Not only do we provide security but we’ve boosted their economy and provide a large portion of the civilian jobs in one way or another. He said like so many, his grandfather served under Hitler.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 11:12:31 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Schnucki
The nations of the world, as well as our own left are like petulant children, railing against their parents at every turn, whilst ignoring that fact that the only thing that has given them the lifestyle, freedom and security they have come to covet, the only thing that has shielded them from all the bogeymen of the world are those same “parents”.

Ironic isn't it, that comfort, that security, that freedom is also what gives them their platform to complain. Short sightedness is a far more dangerous epidemic than a hundred different types of flu...

7 posted on 05/19/2009 11:14:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: a fool in paradise

To Hell with that.


8 posted on 05/19/2009 11:15:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: cranked

In a just world, they would get what they ask for and the rest of us wouldn’t.


9 posted on 05/19/2009 11:15:34 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: chippewaman

I believe that another civil war here is likely. The Left believes that they finally have what they’ve spent generations trying to achieve: power. And they must have absolute power. To that ned, they will not tolerate anything that looks like real opposition.

The recent rise of the tea parties, the relentless and nonstop purchase or arms and ammuntion, more and moe states passing sovereignty resolutions and the increasingly more vocal resistance to the Obama regime have caught them off-guard.

The implication is that, ferrful of losing power, the Obamunist regime will act before they are really ready. The repressive tactics they will be obliged to use to stifle the nascent Second American Revolution will only serve to trigger widespread uprising and violence. Everybody with skin in the game aside from patriots and tyrants - ethnic and grievance groups, communist revolutionaries, anarchists - will jump in, and matters will quickly proceed beyond anyone’s ability to control or to predict the outcomes.


10 posted on 05/19/2009 11:18:08 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Schnucki

World “superpower” status has always been handed between a small group of sane nations for the past 600 years.

France
England
Spain
Portugal
Netherlands
U.S. - which thankfully balanced out the Soviet Union, and Defeated Japan and Germany.

Take us off the stage, and what you have left are:

China
Russia
India
Islamofacist Federation.

If India was the only one on the list or a EU rooted in something other than appeasement and socialism, I could sleep easily with us have a slightly diminished role on the world stage. But sadly the EU is a joke, and India can barely run basic services to most of the country, let alone project power and influence.

So in short, we have no one to hand off to. So were it or the world goes under.


11 posted on 05/19/2009 11:18:37 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Enemy of the state since 1978!)
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To: Schnucki

if Hussein has his way, the world may get to find out...


12 posted on 05/19/2009 11:31:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: VanDeKoik
So in short, we have no one to hand off to.

Come on Aussies-- get busy with creating a massive population!

13 posted on 05/19/2009 11:49:25 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Schnucki
The world with America is an evil place. Hillary Clinton at State? Leon Penetta at CIA? Eric(don't mention pardons)Holder at DoJ?

Evil indeed.

14 posted on 05/19/2009 11:49:45 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: a fool in paradise
"We live too high on the hog, use too much of the world’s resources, need to disarm our military (dismantle the nukes and end future weapons program development), and need to understand the post-American world."

Right, exactly what Reverand Wright says.

15 posted on 05/19/2009 12:03:29 PM PDT by atc23
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To: Schnucki
It is hard for the non-historian to comprehend the absolute disparity of forces at the end of the 2nd World War. The Soviet Union's Army was the absolute dominant land army. It had fantastic battlefield discipline and quite probably could have taken continental Europe if it had been willing to take on the Western Allies without the USofA.

Stalin had the manpower, control and desire but not the A-Bomb and air power. The USofA had the manufacturing and resources but with a 2 front war it could not have well resisted a European conquest campaign by the Soviet Union especially if it was delayed until the US and UK were deep into a Japan Invasion. When the idiots criticize Truman for the A-Bomb usage, I think of the above facts and that utterly ruthless, power-mad and murderous SOB, Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili aka Joseph Stalin.

16 posted on 05/19/2009 12:09:59 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Schnucki

bump


17 posted on 05/19/2009 12:29:19 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Phlap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI


18 posted on 05/19/2009 12:32:41 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Schnucki
One of the comments reads: What I see in comment threads on American blogs means I'm thinking of running a betting book on which staste wll secede from Obamanation first, California or Texas.

Seriously -- has anybody here heard any grumbling coming from California about Obama's policies? If anything, they're complaining that he's not going far enough, fast enough.

California secede? Pheh.

19 posted on 05/19/2009 1:11:29 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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