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Survival Gun Selection
SurvivalBlog.com ^ | James Wesley, Rawles

Posted on 05/19/2009 1:23:02 AM PDT by appleseed

In my survivalist novel "Patriots", I included lots of descriptions of firearms used in various situations in order to illustrate that there is no single "perfect survival gun." Different situations are best handled by using different firearms. There are several requirements that must be considered in selecting guns for use on a farm, ranch, or survival retreat. First, and foremost, they must be versatile. A single gun might be pressed into service for shooting crows or starlings at 10 yards, rabbits or coyotes at 100 yards, or rattlesnakes at five feet. While there is no single gun that can handle any task, it is important to select guns with at least some degree of versatility. Further, it is not realistic to believe that you can get by with just one gun, or even just one rifle, one pistol, and one shotgun. Versatility has its limits. Like a carpenter's box of tools, each type of gun has its special place and purpose.

The second major consideration for survival guns is that they be robust and reliable enough to put up with constant carry and regular use. Good designs not prone to mechanical failures are a plus. When an infrequent repair must be made, a small stock of spare parts that do not require special gunsmithing to install must suffice. When the nearest gunsmith is a two hour drive away, you have to depend on your own resources. And needless to say, who knows which replacement parts will be available when things get Schumeresque? Since they are carried quite frequently and in all sorts of weather, farm/ranch/survival guns need to have durable finishes. Stainless steel is by far the best choice for most situations. Unfortunately, however, not all guns are available in stainless steel.

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Further, it is not realistic to believe that you can get by with just one gun, or even just one rifle, one pistol, and one shotgun.

That's what I keep telling my wife.

Schumeresque

Rawles' definition - Living under intolerably bad (post-TEOTWAWKI) circumstances (i.e. the Schumer has been widely distributed.) See also: WTSHTF.

WTSHTF

Rawles' definition - When the Schumer Hits the Fan. (I formerly said "Stuff" hits the fan, but I think that the implied smell of Congressman Chuck Schumer's voting record is more descriptive.

1 posted on 05/19/2009 1:23:02 AM PDT by appleseed
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2 posted on 05/19/2009 1:26:47 AM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
As I have SEVERAL guns, I can't really talk, but really, if I was pressed to have just one gun, it would have to be a 12 ga with several different ammo's. All the others are just fun.
3 posted on 05/19/2009 1:32:09 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

A shotgun with a shot and a slug barrel would be my choice also.


4 posted on 05/19/2009 1:37:18 AM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
I can't get what the point of the first post's text. There is no "survival situation" given so one can take up the job to decide which gun fits it.

As for a new survey on "which gun fits each job", there're already lots of literature, I don't see why one would want to write another piece. Moreover, it is too short to properly cover such a broad theme.

5 posted on 05/19/2009 1:42:36 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
I was going to post the whole article, but it was just too long. The topics he discusses are:

Small Game
Rimfire Handguns
Centerfire Handguns
Rifles
Combination Guns
Long Range Rifles
Shotguns
Retreat Defense
The “Battery “

He also gives links to Gunsmithing Service and Parts Providers. The article is really long, and to excerpt, that was about the max. in words.

6 posted on 05/19/2009 1:54:21 AM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
You will not survive if you waste ammo on a snake!
7 posted on 05/19/2009 1:56:24 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: appleseed

I think a simple cheap Savage 24F or 24V with a 20 ga over .22 long rifle will get most pot meat from deer to rabbit really well. Taken down it stores well and carries well.

Were self defense in the mix against human predators I would pack a simple EBR and a small .22 lon rifle revolver for pot meat. Something like the S&W 317 with a 3 inch barrel. Limited to one gun an EBR would do all I need well in urban or wilderness.

I “like” the little lightweight SW 317 series due fact that even crap cheap .22 ammo is usable as well as shorts or CB caps etc ......not as picky as my semi auto ruger Mk I handgun.

My 2 cents.......:o)

Mel Tappan thread ......LOL !


8 posted on 05/19/2009 1:58:40 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
"You will not survive if you waste ammo on a snake!"

Of course, that depends on who the snake is........

9 posted on 05/19/2009 2:03:15 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: appleseed; All

Depending on where you live, if I, living where I do, had to have one gun to use for survival, it would be a single shot 22 with iron sights.

This is assuming that it is strictly for survival. I have plenty of other guns, but for what I would need to get by, that would be the weapon of choice.

Cheap ammo, dependable, accurate and can take down enough game to live on. Granted I will not be taking out bears or large deer, but if I am in a survival situation, large game is out of the question anyway.

Keep it in the 10 ring.


10 posted on 05/19/2009 2:11:30 AM PDT by shag377 (Illegitimis nil carborundum sunt!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
You will not survive if you waste ammo on a snake!

So BLOAT now, or bloat later.

11 posted on 05/19/2009 2:48:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Squantos
EBR = ?

CB caps = ?

Congratulations on your mastery of obscure abbreviations and prospeak. Your beanie color must truly be exalted.

12 posted on 05/19/2009 2:54:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

> You will not survive if you waste ammo on a snake!

My Australian mates use a triple-stretch of No 8 wire twisted together into a stick about 8 to 10 feet long. A few whaps with that will break the snake’s back in multiple places, rendering it hors de combat.

From there the snake can be beheaded, gutted, skinned, cooked and eaten, much like a fish.

A shotgun, on the other hand, would merely make a mess of an otherwise perfectly good tasty meal. Wasteful if you are in a survival situation.


13 posted on 05/19/2009 2:56:57 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

CB caps are a type of .22 ammunition that are very light and quiet, almost pellet gun noise level.

EBR is “Evil Black Rifle”, such as AR series etc ......

Stay safe !


14 posted on 05/19/2009 3:04:09 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Up kinda early...


15 posted on 05/19/2009 3:21:09 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: appleseed

Pack light and travel fast.

You don’t want to be lugging around all kinds of guns and ammo in a survival situation. PICK ONE! That’s all you get. No back up pistol. No multi barrel shotguns. No fancy optics. ONE LIGHTWEIGHT AND VERSATILE GUN.

Keltec SU-16


16 posted on 05/19/2009 3:23:04 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: MileHi

Late actually.......:o)

Out of here now........check in tonight !

Stay safe !


17 posted on 05/19/2009 3:25:09 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: appleseed

All of my guns were lost in last weeks flood. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


18 posted on 05/19/2009 3:28:33 AM PDT by swisher
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To: Squantos
Oh, yeah -- EBR, I get it now.

Hmm, a neighbor "might" have one of those..... but he'd never mention it in an open forum.

We might start telling newsies and others, "Hey, look, this is what a 21st-century rifle looks like! -- Get over it!"

Impeccable logic, actually, and the key is, people would Get It no matter what the grabbers said by way of spin.

19 posted on 05/19/2009 3:34:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: mamelukesabre
ONE LIGHTWEIGHT AND VERSATILE GUN.

Saiga, Remington, or Winchester autoloader 12-gauge with extra-round box mags or mag extender, receiver caddy, pistol-grip, Picatinny or AK accessory rail, small tac light or laser sight, Tritium-insert open sights, sling. 19-20" barrel. Bandolier or ammo harness or raid vest, wide variety of 2-3/4" ammo.

Close?

20 posted on 05/19/2009 3:52:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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