Posted on 04/04/2009 9:11:52 PM PDT by malkee
I have a genuine question to ask Freepers. Why is it any time a woman stands up for equal treatment on FR is she called a "feminazi" and a liberal?
If you review the last 50 posts or so to the "breaking news" thread about the shooting of three police officers in Pittsburgh Saturday, you will see that it was "hijacked" by a group of posters attacking "Canaan" who started it all by questioning a poster's use of the word "reporterette."
Canann thought the word was sexist. Whether or not that was the case, or is the case, I thought the attack on her was entirely unnecessary. That was her OPINION, and I thought we Freepers, even we female Freepers, were entitled to have an opinion. So I stood up for her, and suggested we end the hijack of the thread. Then I was accused of being a hypocrite because I had mentioned this and not yet donated to the freepathon.
After donating, I wrote to my nemesis and suggested he email me privately if he wanted to bash me, since that would no longer involve the thread, to which he responded that he didn't want me to freepmail him any more and that I was "out of line."
My question is this -- was I really out of line?I did email him before receiving his directive, saying I thought he was being mean and nasty. But I truly believe that some conservative men have a real lack of understanding when it comes to women, particularly women who aren't especially attractive, aren't married and don't have children. I am about as pro-life as they come - which is the one thing that ties all true conservatives together, imho-- and I get continually disgusted when I see how the GOP treats women. Let's take Sarah Palin, for example. Sarah Palin would never have been chosen by John McCain if it were not for her looks. This is a hard truth. But when the "rubber met the road" and the "going" got tough, John McCain wasn't there for her. He nothing to help her win female support, which would have entailed having her meet with women of somewhat like mind and answer questions in a non-threatening environment. Instead, he threw her in the lion's den with Katie Couric, one of the snobbiest "feminazis" around, who celebrates her own lack of morality and lack of respect by her peers with an attempt to degrade Sarah Palin. And Sarah Palin, instead of standing up to her, backed down because she was afraid McCain and co. would be angry with her. Ask your wives, husbands, if you don't believe me.
If we are ever going to compete with the Democrats --if we are ever to win back the White House, we NEED THE FEMALE VOTE people. It's okay for women to have a voice, and ~~headline almost a hundred years later -and a vote. You've got to learn the lesson, guys, the democrats learned it back in the 60s. There are conservative women out there who can be won, whether or not they meet the "perfect Suzie" requirement. I am looking forward to civil discussion this matter.
I’m sorry to say this on FR about some of the people on FR but, I don’t think you’ll get civilized discussion.
Really? Any time a woman stands up for "equal treatment"? Doubt it.
I don't ask for equal treatment. I already have it. Why ask for something you already have? I can give as well as take from people here.
Conservatives can't stand language Nazis.
George Orwell wrote a famous essay about them.
Yeah, well it’s started already. It’ll only get worse when I ping some of those involved. I’d really like to see a post from a woman who stood up for women’s rights on FR without being bashed.
By the way, I agree with most of your points, but I think your statement about FR is a gross overgeneralization.
One thing to keep in mind around here is that you’ve gotta have something of a thick skin, and whining about the use of a word like reporterette will just bring out the fight in some posters. I don’t think it has anything much to do with sexism per se (whether or not the word is appropriate); I think people just tend to react negatively to people hectoring them about the words they use.
Agreed. But I still think people are entitled to an opinion.
I have been around FR for a number of years now. I honestly don’t see this as a problem. I’ve never been called a feminazi. I’ve never been called a chauvinist either. In fact, when a poster responds to an issue, unless that person identifies their sex, it never enters into the discussion.
I think you are full of sh** an a troll to boot. IMO.
I think you are exaggerating a touch. ALL the time? Really?
Not everyone gets along here. Who knows if it’s just a personal thing between a couple of people who just don’t like each other. People have the right not to get along and say so. If it gets out of line the admin mods step in. Lord knows they do it often enough.
Honest question: what does nagging someone about a word they use have to do with women's rights? I doubt anyone around here thinks the reporter in question shouldn't be allowed to do that job, and Freepers (myself included) were and are strong supporters of Sarah Palin for VP and possibly President.
Equal rights have nothing to do with this, I think, though I admit I haven't read the exchange on the other thread, so some may have crossed that line. But using the word "reporterette" and then being annoyed at the PC Word Police has very little to do with equal rights.
The world is mad, and there IS a devil behind every tree.
And some people love to see/hear themselves talk.
It's a psychological hodgepodge in desperate need of a leader, without which we fire on each other.
Get over it, the time for delicacies is past.
Were anyone's posts removed? Everyone is entitled to an opinion; nobody is entitled to post their opinion without allowing opposition. Sometimes that opposition is friendly, sometimes it's rude, sometimes it's a bit hostile, but those posters have a right to post their thoughts as well. Nobody has a right not to have their feelings hurt.
Malkee, sorry you had this experience. I’ve been here several years now and have never seen a female dissed for any reason. I’ve seen some severe disagreements, but they have been issue based, not gender based.
McCain wasn't there for her because he's a RINO and Sarah's a conservative, not because she's a woman. You'll have to come up with a much better example than that if you aim to show that GOP in general mistreats women.
I've been around here just slightly longer than the 5 months since you signed-up, and I find your question/statement to be a gross exaggeration and a broad brush that simply isn't true. You've gotten your feelings hurt needlessly. Suck it up and move on like a big girl.
Yeah, but [at least in theory] people are also [supposed to be] entitled to speak freely without having to worry about a bunch of Language Nazis trying to tell them what are and are not acceptable choices in vocabulary.
Well, speaking only for myself, I find those kind of wordings to be somewhat juvenile. Reporter does the job so why use ‘reporterette’? It smacks of PC nonsense. What do you use if you have no idea if the reporterette/reporter is a man or a woman?
I am an agnostic, but find it just as juvenile when people use CE (Common Era) in place of AD (Anno Domini).
Stuff like that just puts my teeth on edge.
Well said. I think you’re overgeneralizing some ... but basically you called it right.
But there’s a bigger issue at stake. Conservatives have to concentrate on the core BIG issues: personal responsibility, pro-life and the Constitution ... and stop being so petty and catty and boorish about the little things (leave that to the liberals).
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