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A lot of bloggers and forums have made “lists” that just does not work. A .22 rifle for hunting small game to eat is of little use if you live in South Beach...
1 posted on 02/21/2009 12:26:58 PM PST by omega4179
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Home defense firearms for beginners? 12 ga. shotgun and .357 mag revolver.


2 posted on 02/21/2009 12:30:05 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Home Defense for beginners:

20 Gauge and .38 revolver (3-4” bbl.)


3 posted on 02/21/2009 12:33:56 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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"firearms should be unloaded when not in use."

perps don't sit around and wait for you to load your firearm.

"use proper ammunition."

you mean a 22lr won't work in a 50cal.?

"always wear ear and eye protection when shooting."

when shooting a perp at 3a.m.?

"don't alter or modify your gun..."

unless you have a greater i.q. than a slug.

"...and have it serviced regularly."

by who? jiffy lube?

5 posted on 02/21/2009 12:38:12 PM PST by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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yes you cannot find a place to shoot it in the city but the ammunition is cheap and I would love to have a ruger 10/22 in my home at my disposal (as it is right now) if somebody came to the door who wanted to do me harm. Imagine if you can shoot a squirrel at 40 yrds in the head.....I could imagine it could easily pin down perps from the same or greater distance.


6 posted on 02/21/2009 12:39:05 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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Teach everyone in your home to handle and fire your guns.


8 posted on 02/21/2009 12:40:40 PM PST by bmwcyle (The end is near and this time I mean it. Get right with JESUS NOW!)
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If we’re talking handguns in the home, whatever the caliber, a revolver is the best because it is simple to load and if it misfires, you just pull the trigger again. I would personally recommend a .38 or larger.

Use Glazer or Mag Safe ammo. If you miss, the bullet won’t go through the wall and kill someone innocent, but if it hits the bad guy, he’s in for one very bad day.


9 posted on 02/21/2009 12:46:17 PM PST by Ikemeister
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If everyone had a gun and were encouraged to carry them openly and use them liberally, we wouldn’t really need government for much. It’s the only honest form of democracy.

Compared to the rest of the world at the time, the Old West was a nice place to be. Class wars, gang riots, and crime sprees ended quicker than you can say ‘Winchester’.


10 posted on 02/21/2009 12:49:25 PM PST by CowboyJay (Welcome to Soros' hot tub. Did somebody turn the thermostat up?)
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Mossberg 500 *Road Blocker* 6 shot
14 posted on 02/21/2009 1:09:45 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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Don’t worry about safety - Deal Leader’s Federal States Police Force (FSPF) will protect you from those who do have guns .... (/s off)


16 posted on 02/21/2009 1:11:13 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?")
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Every woman and child above age 8 should know how to handle these in the new Progressive world.


17 posted on 02/21/2009 1:12:55 PM PST by Guns
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Guns are great for protection.. What concerns me is mobs burning down your house with you in it.. Short of building a fireproof bomb shelter and owning an assault weapon.. What kind of protection is there for that? Prayer is my guess.


18 posted on 02/21/2009 1:16:34 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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Even more since the 2006 elections put the Socialists in charge of the economy.

That little nugget is overlooked by everyone...

19 posted on 02/21/2009 1:17:30 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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I’ve decided to build a Castle with a moat full of crocks.


21 posted on 02/21/2009 1:21:31 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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A long time ago I believed in that unloaded gun crap. I kept my unloaded shotgun on the top shelf of the bedroom closet in a lockable gun case. The ammo was in the basement in a locked container. Keys were in a dresser drawer. In 1983 I was stabbed while confronted by a burglar. The police chief asked if I had a gun, then he called me an idiot when I told him how it was locked away. He was 100% right. I’ll guarantee that scenario will never happen again.


26 posted on 02/21/2009 1:27:25 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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If you're in Miami, I'm an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor with 20 years experience. Read my about page. There is a gunshow March 14th downtown & I may be taking another client for HIS home battery (more than one). I'm teaching his kids gun safety, his wife and he are getting my CCW permit class. Took him to the range just today (our 4th trip -- not required, he just likes my instruction) and he keeps gettin' better and better!
27 posted on 02/21/2009 1:32:15 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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A .22 rifle for hunting small game to eat is of little use if you live in South Beach...

Whoa, are you wanting to learn self defense from street crime level bad guys or are you looking for survival lessons such as gathering food and such after a catastrophe? I can do both, But I have to know.

30 posted on 02/21/2009 1:39:18 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Hi Point C9 9mm pistol. $130 out the door with a lifetime warranty.

35 posted on 02/21/2009 2:02:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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bookmark


36 posted on 02/21/2009 2:05:43 PM PST by GOP Poet
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Ping for later


41 posted on 02/21/2009 2:18:56 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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My personal take:

Required weapons for SHTF scenario:

1. 22 LR, either bolt or semi-auto
2. 22 handgun, either revolver or semi-auto
3. 12 gauge, pump
4. Rifle, medium capability, 30.06, .30-30 or .223
5. Medium revolver, .38 & .357 are good; .357 can fire .38 rounds, so the .357 is a plus.
6. Stopping capability handgun. I prefer a .45 semi-auto, but there are several good choices.

Over all, the fewer calibers you can get away with, the better. A firearm without ammo is of little value, and several boxes of ammo can run into quite a bit of money. That's one of the reasons I'm big on .22s. They might not be your firearm of choice, but you can stockload a ton of ammo for little money, and a good .22 is extremely accurate. A well placed .22 round will do stuff a badly placed larger caliber won't.

A few random thoughts:
There are tons of videos on youtube of morons giving a chick something like a .50 Desert Eagle and giggling as she breaks her nose the first time she fires it. NOBODY should start shooting with the larger calibers, although people can learn with patient teaching. Start them out with a .22 or a BB gun; don't give them a cannon and laugh at the reaction. Learning to shoot is like juggling; start out with bean bags and work your way up to chain saws.

Teach safety first, always. Here's a couple of youtubes of idiots who should know better (both of these are old videos, but still relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoNLgZul2CE&feature=PlayList&p=29050795EA1F1B53&index=41

Most of the tough talk on firearms is just that: 90% of the people who say what they'd do in a situation they've never been in don't know what they'd actually do.

If you have to cut down on my list, the most overlap is with the .357 and the .45.

As to personal preferences, I prefer firearms that look like hunting arms as opposed to the military look. They do the same job, but if you have a walnut stock, you're a hunter. If you have black pistol grips and a muzzle suppressor, you're a gun nut. I think it's best to not cut too big a swathe in appearance, as long as you get the necessary capability.

42 posted on 02/21/2009 2:25:09 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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