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New Hampshire Fires First Shot of a New Civil War?
Evil Conservative Radio ^ | 10 Feb 2009 | EC

Posted on 02/10/2009 6:27:56 PM PST by nysuperdoodle

On Friday, I reported about the resolution being prepared in the New Hampshire State Legislature to fight the unconstitutional socialization and centralization of our federal government. Yesterday the resolution was introduced to the legislature with very strong wording that certain acts by the federal government would be seen as a "breach of peace" with the states, and "nullifying the Constitution."

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; cwii; newhampshire; porky; statesrights
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To: Defiant

Overturn Wickard v Filburn!


41 posted on 02/10/2009 8:09:57 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: bolobaby

If only they had the votes!

<<If Only.


42 posted on 02/10/2009 8:12:51 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Defiant

“The Constitution is the contract which forms the basis of the Union.”

Pleas quote/cut and paste the appropriate section in the Constitution that supports that assertion.

I don’t believe you are correct. I believe the Union predates the Constitution and is not dependent on the Constitution for its existence.

As for other parts of your post: at least you are beginning to make a case that the problem is with other States and not the Federal Government, which is only an agent of the States.


43 posted on 02/10/2009 8:23:57 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Osage Orange; GOP Poet; Army Air Corps; ducdriver; o_zarkman44; nuconvert; MeekOneGOP; CowboyJay; ..
Thanks for the heads up AAC.

Click the pic for all articles tagged with the keyword "10thamendment"

Couldn't determine if there is much new here except the article states the resolution was submitted/resubmitted yesterday...

Just in case nobody has noticed, you'll be hard pressed to find anything about these resolutions/bills ANYWHERE in the dino media. Must not be important???

Also, I've added a few more names to the ping list. If you want off just say so.

44 posted on 02/10/2009 8:43:34 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Thanks for the ping. I’m happy that Arizona has jumped on this. Too bad it is not being covered by the “media.”


45 posted on 02/10/2009 8:46:45 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have You Punched A Democrat Today? - Do it for the children.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s new website ...
http://www.nogovernmentbailouts.com/


46 posted on 02/10/2009 8:47:37 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life ;o)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Oh , it’s important.

Thanks for adding me.

Either we’re 50 counties or 50 States.

Kinda wonder.


47 posted on 02/10/2009 8:48:31 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (If I had any further to go,I'd be there.)
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To: nysuperdoodle
I have respect for New Hampshire. They are sending a strong message to the feds.
48 posted on 02/10/2009 8:50:34 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: ForGod'sSake

49 posted on 02/10/2009 8:52:47 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’m happy that Arizona has jumped on this.

Indeed. I find myself grinning a little when I think about these states making noises about reaffirming their duties and rights under the Constitution. We certainly need to support and encourage them all we can. Without support from conservatives they might become inclined to believe there's not really anybody behind them.

50 posted on 02/10/2009 9:01:59 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: silentreignofheroes
Either we’re 50 counties or 50 States.

Patrick Henry had a similar observation; his thoughts were without a Bill of Rights the several states would become nothing more than bureaucratic districts for the federales.

51 posted on 02/10/2009 9:08:35 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: Poser

I appreciate the reality checks, but IMHO we should be doing all we can to help the process along. For example, have you talked to any of the sponsors of this resolution to offer your support or encouraged others to do the same??? Just askin’.


52 posted on 02/10/2009 9:13:07 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: Viking2002

I never said that the secession should be performed by a small segment of the union =P And really, I’d be fine keeping the union as is and replacing its government.

Lots of pain now, prosperity forever (or at least until people forget, again).


53 posted on 02/10/2009 9:26:46 PM PST by TheZMan (Secede.)
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To: Defiant

I’m in. I’ll start drafting letters to my state reps on Thursday and mail them out on Friday morning.

Get the word OUT!


54 posted on 02/10/2009 9:26:54 PM PST by Marie ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: KrisKrinkle
Is this the part of the discussion where you come up with some obscure and irrelevant argument regarding the Articles of Confederation? Maybe we can talk about whether the 16th Amendment got ratified while we are at it. Then we can fight about the fact that someone called the US a democracy instead of a republic. Whatever.

The Constitution is an agreement between the states creating a federal government and stating the rights and obligations of the states and the people with respect to each other and the federal government. The parties to the Constitution are the states. It is signed by the authorized representatives of the states, although there was some coercion of a couple of them, as I recall.

Whatever the relationship of the states was before the Constitution was clearly superceded by the Constitution.

When a party to an agreement fails to honor the obligations of that agreement, the other party or parties have the right to declare the agreement in breach and pursue the appropriate remedy. In a normal contract, that remedy is to sue for damages, or for specific performance. In the context of an agreement between sovereign states to form a confederacy and create a vehicle through which they can conduct a common defense, create a currency and regulate interstate commerce, when the compact is utterly breached, there is no longer an obligation to remain part of that confederacy.

When you form a partnership, and the partnership's rules are not followed, you can sue to dissolve the partnership. We can't do that with our national partnership, but we have the moral right to accomplish the same end result.

If we approach this with the mindset that we are the ones who want to follow the Constitution, and we have been forced to withdraw from the Federal government's jurisdiction by its refusal to follow the rules, we can maintain the legal, moral and political righteousness of our cause, and that will serve us well. It will be harder for opponents when we say that all we want to do is restore the Constitution. Their efforts to prevent that would be an exercise of raw power, not of legal right.

Lincoln won the election, and was following the rules, and the south didn't want to accept that. We lost this election, but we don't get to leave every time we lose an argument. We need to be clear that we must leave because the Constitution does not allow socialism, does not allow Federal intrusion into matters that are not enumerated, does not allow interference with the 2nd Amendment, does not permit the destruction of religious belief, does not require criminals to be set free or prevent them from being executed by hanging, and certainly does not permit 5 justices to amend it by fiat due to evolving standards of civility.

Frankly, it could have been done a long time ago, but there was always the hope that FDR's and LBJ's impositions on the Constitution could be reversed over time. Reagan gave us hope. Obama represents an indication that the hope of following the Constitution is slowly dying, unless we take matters into our own hands in places where people still care. The tipping point has been reached, and every day from here on out, we will grow weaker and fewer. We either begin to push back soon, or never.

55 posted on 02/10/2009 9:29:15 PM PST by Defiant (I for one welcome our new Obama Overlords.)
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To: Poser

I’ll be more impressed when it passes. I doubt it will.


56 posted on 02/10/2009 9:30:16 PM PST by Defiant (I for one welcome our new Obama Overlords.)
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To: nysuperdoodle; pandoraou812

This makes sense.


57 posted on 02/10/2009 9:36:03 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

Yes it does.


58 posted on 02/10/2009 9:44:13 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: Frantzie; John123
Does NH have the votes to get this passed?

No. Historically pretty conservative by absolute standards, and especially so for New England, they've been invaded by voters who are smart enough to realize Massholechusetts is fscked up but not smart enough to realize they're the ones that did it. So the NH legislature is now Democrat, as well as the Governor and the state SC.

Now, something similar is being done here in AZ, where it would stand an excellent chance of passage, especially with a new Republican governator replacing Her Manhood, Janet Napolitano, except that I believe ours is just a resolution, rather than an actual bill, and has no legal force.

59 posted on 02/10/2009 9:49:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: nysuperdoodle

the resolution being prepared
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a resolution has no legal teeth and it still being in the prep stage, places it a long way from the voted stage.

But, something small and tiny CAN turn into a big thing.


60 posted on 02/10/2009 9:56:20 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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