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To: MHGinTN; BonRad; Calpernia; Chief Engineer; LucyT; Polarik
Is it true that Stanley was in Cuba in 1960?

I don't think that has ever been verified. However, I did find the following statements of interest - these are the paragraphs I forwarded to Calpernia quite some time ago - from when The Obama Timeline appeared on the the rightsideoflife website which is now 'frozen' - current link below.

THE OBAMA TIMELINE

Note that Barack Obama, Sr.’s Hawaiian education was being sponsored partly by the Laubach Literacy Institute (LLI), which has links to the Nation of Islam, and which considers a socialist world without national borders one of its goals. A financial supporter of the LLI was Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who co-authored books with its founder, Charles Laubach; Kirk was also a friend of civil rights activist Malcolm X. It is likely that Malcolm X met Obama, Sr. while visiting the Secretary general of the Kenya Federation of Labour, prominent Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, in 1959, because Mboya and Obama were close friends. [527]

~SNIP

There is also speculation that Obama is the son of the civil right activist, Malcolm X (Malcolm Little), who was murdered in 1965, allegedly by members of the Nation of Islam. (Ann Dunham graduated from high school in the Seattle area in 1960, and Malcolm X formed the Nation of Islam Temple No. 67 in Seattle that same year, and was a guest speaker at various universities, including the University of Washington.) It is not difficult to see that Obama resembles Malcolm X much more than he resembles Barack Obama, Jr., but a resemblance is of course not the same as hard evidence. Perhaps the truth will never be known without the release of original birth records or DNA testing… and the likelihood of that is minimal. Dunham was already in Hawaii, however, when she became pregnant in late 1960. In order for Malcolm X to be the father, he had to have been in Hawaii in late 1960 or Dunham had to leave Hawaii to be with him; no evidence of either circumstance has been produced. [524,526,527]

THE OBAMA TIMELINE CONT:

Note that the Malcolm-X-as-father scenario would, however, explain why Obama seemed to be “looked after” - both financially and otherwise - throughout his college years. Obama would later receive a letter of recommendation for Harvard from Percy Sutton, who was Malcolm X’s attorney. Khalid al-Mansour (aka “Donald Warden”) becomes the main financial backer for Obama; al-Mansour has been a close associate of Nation of Islam (NOI) leader Louis Farrakhan, and Malcolm X, who was the national spokesman for NOI. It is not unreasonable to assume that, if Obama was indeed the son of Malcolm X, those who were close to the civil rights leader would “look after him” in any way possible, making sure he was taught in the ways of Islam and socialism, funded by Arab and Syrian financiers. Obama’s benefactors would include Tony Rezko, Percy Sutton, Khalid al-Mansour, Muhammadian Mian Soomro, Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said, and William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who would have known Malcolm X and associates like Black Panther members Huey Newton and Bobby Seale....


79 posted on 01/11/2009 8:54:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Well, Fred, looks like I've got to defer to what Pam Geller said on 10/24 over at her Atlas Shruggs blog:

HOW COULD STANLEY ANN DUNHAM HAVE DELIVERED BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR. IN AUGUST OF 1961 IN HONOLULU, WHEN OFFICIAL UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON RECORDS SHOW HER 2680 MILES AWAY IN SEATTLE ATTENDING CLASSES THAT SAME MONTH?

Geller's timeline is still the most complete and the most plausible one I've seen to date. Also, she confirms what I said earlier about the stigma of being a pregnant teen, etc..

Everyone should take the time to read the whole thing.

86 posted on 01/11/2009 9:22:28 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Fred Nerks; Jim Robinson; Calpernia; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
Thank you, Fred Nerks.

Ping to #79 and 86.

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Trolls, moles and spies want you to answer them. If they are totally ignored, they Photobucket "can't get no satisfaction" Photobucket so they will be frustrated and leave.

Adding a comment from JimRob:

Ignoring minor annoyances is an effective but often underutilized weapon in the fine art of political debate.

447 posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:19:19 PM by Jim Robinson

90 posted on 01/11/2009 9:50:40 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks

I would like to point out at Elizabeth Mooney Kirk was Obama Sr’s sponsor until he graduated from UH at Manoa. I April of 1962 she wrote Tom Mboya a letter asking if another sponsor could be found for Obama Sr to attend graduate school, preferably at Harvard. She was unable to continue her sponsorship as she had two step children who were going to be attending University. Tom Mboya ended up sponsoring Sr for his Harvard studies. This letter shows that Obama Sr’s plans were not certain in April 1962 let alone April of 1961.


108 posted on 01/11/2009 10:35:56 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Fred Nerks

I would like to point out at Elizabeth Mooney Kirk was Obama Sr’s sponsor until he graduated from UH at Manoa. I April of 1962 she wrote Tom Mboya a letter asking if another sponsor could be found for Obama Sr to attend graduate school, preferably at Harvard. She was unable to continue her sponsorship as she had two step children who were going to be attending University. Tom Mboya ended up sponsoring Sr for his Harvard studies. This letter shows that Obama Sr’s plans were not certain in April 1962 let alone April of 1961.


109 posted on 01/11/2009 10:35:56 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Fred Nerks
Malcolm X tribute dress(es)


143 posted on 01/12/2009 12:03:26 PM PST by They'reGone2000 (<--- Forwarding address: Galt's Gulch)
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To: Fred Nerks; seekthetruth

Late thanks- am diverted (the double episodes of 24 Sun-Mon and now something here Tues-and now into WED-pooped). Don’t mean to appear casual on these things. Would like to draw your attention to Chief Engineer’s post #64 in this thread, and hope others have paid attention.

Wanted to add I’ve certainly spent some time on “Obama File” but “Obama Timeline” is just, say, something easier to digest AS A COMPENDIUM as it READS so well, without charts, tables etc. It rounds out the “story” so carefully AND succinctly. Errors are minor enough to my mind, that it can be sent to relations, government types, vets appropriately enough.

I’ve never had a problem w/ Obamafile I can recall.


159 posted on 01/13/2009 10:19:46 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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