Affidavit Supporting Polarik's Evidence in Keyes vs. Lingle

Keyes vs. Lingle ^ | 12/4/2008 | Sandra Ramsey Lines

[Kevmo]

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.

3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, “Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II?” It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.

4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.

SANDRA RAMSEY LINES Forensic Document Examiner ........ Paradise Valley, Arizona 85253

SRLines@cox.net

Former Federal Examiner Retired Law Enforcement Officer

* Identification of handwriting, hand printing, signatures, typewriting, photocopying, and printing processes

* Examination of paper, inks, stamps, seals, and other documentary evidence to determine identity, source, authenticity, and possible date

* Forensic analysis of business and medical records to determine whether there are alterations, additions, deletions, erasures, substitutions, and/or if the records were manufactured in a normal course-of-business manner

* Distinguishing forgery from genuineness

* Restoration or decipherment of erased, obliterated or hidden writing

* Expert testimony in state and federal courts, and regulatory hearings

Certified Diplomate, American Board of Forensic Document Examiners Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences Member, American Society of Questioned Document Examiners Member, Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners Member, American Society of Testing and Materials, Forensic Sciences Committee, and Questioned Document Subcommittee

[little jeremiah]

Very well said, MHG.

[freespirited]

Thanks for da ping.

[FARS]

Your comment has been echoed by another friend of mine who is a retired (early) intel Colonel.

Meanwhile, can you pass this around military friends? This will certainly be important and it si not too late.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/01/military-class-action-my-words-type.html

[LucyT]

Palmer! You’re back?

Heh.

[MHGinTN]

Palmer is not a troll, by the way. Highly opinionated, but not a troll.

[Polarik]

There is no Maya COLB that I know of. That was a rumor that resulte from Techdude’s bogus research claims.

[justiceseeker93]

Although I'm a staunch Republican, I'm glad that Gov. Lingle is the lead defendant in Allan Keyes' suit. It's obvious that she has been stonewalling on the issue of the release of the birth certificate, seeking to hide under the guise of the Hawaii state privacy act.

She should have realize that appropriate implementation of the US Constitution (which she is sworn to uphold), which this case raises, takes precedence over whatever alleged privacy protection Obama enjoys under that state statute. Moreover, if Obama authorized the release of a (fraudulent) Hawaii birth document, it could be condended that he has waived any privacy protection in his birth information which he may have enjoyed. Plus, as the state's chief executive, Gov. Lingle should have recognized the fraudulent use of a state document by Obama's campaign and asked for a state criminal investigation if such an act is a state crime.

It's about time that public officials are called to account in the courtrooms of America when they participate in coverups of frauds and other crimes - even coverups protecting members of another political party, no matter what office that public official holds and no matter what office the person being protected holds or seeks to hold.

[MHGinTN]

Just heard Orly Taitz cite the document and section in which Obama’s application for foreign student aid in California is listed in Calif. government document. If anyone is interested, I have copied a pathway to the pdf.

[conservativegramma]

Please, I’m interested!

[BARLF]

I’m interested. If you post a link please ping me.

TIA

[BlueMoose]

Lie = To convey a false image or impression

[TruthWillWin]

Berg mentioned Maya having a Hawaiian BC indicating an Indonesian birth in his lawsuit.

[Red Steel]

It makes sense that Obama sought out aid for foreign students at Occidental college since he has admitted to being a Kenyan citizen up to August 4th, 1982.

I wonder if he applied as a foreigner at Harvard?

[MHGinTN]

Here's the addy as best I could copy it down. What you're searching for is the record of application and appropriation for foreign aide/tuition for a foreign student named Soetoro. Lolo's father obtained this in 1963, according tot he same records search guide. Apparently this is in California Law School education archives available at several different addys/law school campuses and extensions:

University Library|California Legal Research Guide:Legislature ... Journal of the Senate, Legislature of the State of California (Ref KFC14 .c3522) !942- current

pathway, 'library. sonoma.edu/research/subject/callaw.html

Searching the California Journal of Assembly fro 1981, Soetoro p.7087, July 1981 paragraphs 283 - 313

[MHGinTN]

Apparently, Barry’s stepfather’s father applied for and received such aide when he was in the CA college system, in 1963. Lolo may have understood this very well and had Barry apply for same using his Indonesian citizenship.

[bvw]

At what point did Hitler become evil? Was there an obvious point? At what point was it obvious that he was evil and not just a charismatic politician who crowds loved, and whom the volk hoped would change things for the better?

One may look hard for that point, but where is it to be found? How would someone in those days -- not after, with hindsight -- but in those times, be able to say -- that man is evil, not just a mere political opponent.

[MHGinTN]

With the onset of Brownshirts and barroom brawls to squelch the opposition groups meetings, perhaps. Certainly Kristalnacht would be an indicator. When the Reich got involved in the occult would also be an alarming development, but that one was not likley open to public awareness, more an SS excursion at Hilter’s and Goebbel’s behest.

[bvw]

Okay, we can make it Kristalnacht. 11/9/1938. The beer hall putsch was arguably just rowdy politics. A Philadelphia IBEW Union party.

Well, before that was the following:

# Hitler Joins German Workers’ Party - 1919
# Nazi Party is Formed - 1920
# Hitler Named Leader of Nazi Party - July 1921
# The Beer Hall Putsch - November 9, 1923
# Hitler on Trial for Treason - February 26, 1924
# Hitler’s Book “Mein Kampf” published — 1925
# Germans Elect Nazis - September 14, 1930
# Hitler Runs for President - 1932
# The Republic Collapses — Spring of 1932
# Hitler Named Chancellor of Germany - January 30, 1933
# The Reichstag Burns - February 27, 1933
# Hitler Becomes Dictator of Germany - March 23, 1933
# Nazis Boycott Jewish Shops - April 1, 1933
# The Gestapo is Born - April 26, 1933
# Burning of Books - May 10, 1933
# Dachau Opens - Spring of 1933
# Night of the Long Knives - June 30, 1934
# Hitler Becomes Führer - August 2, 1934
# Triumph of the Will - September 1934
# The Nuremberg Laws - September 15, 1935
# Nazis March into the Rhineland - March 7, 1936
# The Berlin Olympics - Summer of 1936
# Hitler Reveals War Plans - November 5, 1937
# Hitler Becomes Army Commander - February 1938
# Nazis Take Austria - March 12, 1938
# Conquest at Munich - September 1938

A march of small steps. Where are we? A little under twenty years for Hitler, from early 1919 until late 1938. Where was Obama in 1990? Deciding to go to Pakistan and Columbia, presumably. But the march is there too. Can you hear the drum beat?

(source for timeline: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/index.htm)

[conservativegramma]

I give up, I'm not able to get anywhere with the links. But interestingly I did find:

This on Orly's blog.

"A retired INS agent who worked when Obama came into the United States stated he distinctly remembered Obama because of his ‘slick’ manners and speech. The agent says that he went back into the INS files and found the information and that Obama came into the USA on a FS-1 passport/visa. FS-1 is a foreign student visa classification, not a US citizen passport."

Whoa! So now there is a govt record for a foreign student named Soetoro; and an INS agent has issued a statement he remembers Obama using a foreign student visa.

GO ORLY!!!!!!! Nail the SOB!

[little jeremiah]

Interesing avenue of thought. Hitler also hid much of his background and real beliefs, creating a public persona that was very different from the private or real one. “The Pink Swastika” (online) by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams sheds a lot of light on the beginnings and foundation of the roots of the Nazi Party and Hitler himself, as does “Hidden Hitler” by Lothar - oops, can’t remember his last name, a German historian. But the German public certainly had no idea of who Hitler really was, his private beliefs, statements and habits.