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Affidavit Supporting Polarik's Evidence in Keyes vs. Lingle
Keyes vs. Lingle ^ | 12/4/2008 | Sandra Ramsey Lines

Posted on 01/06/2009 11:52:38 AM PST by Kevmo

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.

3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, “Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II?” It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.

4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.

SANDRA RAMSEY LINES Forensic Document Examiner ........ Paradise Valley, Arizona 85253

SRLines@cox.net

Former Federal Examiner Retired Law Enforcement Officer

* Identification of handwriting, hand printing, signatures, typewriting, photocopying, and printing processes

* Examination of paper, inks, stamps, seals, and other documentary evidence to determine identity, source, authenticity, and possible date

* Forensic analysis of business and medical records to determine whether there are alterations, additions, deletions, erasures, substitutions, and/or if the records were manufactured in a normal course-of-business manner

* Distinguishing forgery from genuineness

* Restoration or decipherment of erased, obliterated or hidden writing

* Expert testimony in state and federal courts, and regulatory hearings

Certified Diplomate, American Board of Forensic Document Examiners Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences Member, American Society of Questioned Document Examiners Member, Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners Member, American Society of Testing and Materials, Forensic Sciences Committee, and Questioned Document Subcommittee


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; keyes; obama; tinfoilhat
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To: Kevmo

Ooooh yeah....forgot that juicy little tidbit. So the count now is:

1. Forged COLB.

2. No Hawaiian hospital records.

3. No eyewitnesses to his birth anywhere in HI - but there is one for Kenya - his paternal grandmother.

4. Newspaper birth announcement that gives the address of Obama’s parents: But neighbor claims Obama’s have never lived there and she’s lived next door since before 1961. In that year the house was owned by a family named Young.

5. Hawaiian law allows registration of foreign births and any certifications may be ‘altered’.

6. Obama refuses to release any ‘original’ birth records and spends thousands of dollars on legal fees fighting various lawsuits to prevent release of any records. He also refuses to release any other records which may shed light on his place of birth, i.e, college records, etc. etc.

7. Obama puts the kabosh on any interviews between Grandma Dunham and the press during the election, then she mysteriously just happens to fall ill and die right when the birth certificate issue began heating up right before election day.

8. Obama puts the kabosh on any interviews between Obama relatives in Kenya. Mums the word.

9. Kenya just happens to seal all records pertaining to the Obama’s in Kenya. At the same time all Kenyan’s hail President Obama ‘the native son’.

10. Bill Richardson gives a speech where he calls Obama an ‘immigrant’.

11. Factcheck claims forged certificate is real, but Factcheck is owned by the Annenberg Foundation. Hardly a neutral organization regarding Obama.

12. The state of Hawaii affirms they have a document on file, newspapers run with the word that Obama is born in Honolulu, which Dr. Fukino never said. All that was ever said was that ‘the document is in accordance with all state law and procedure’. See #5 above.

Oh yeah, so since there is no evidence of a foreign birth to date; therefore, all of the above points are tin-foil hat material and should be ignored. Obama’s place of birth is proven to be Hawaii only because Obama, his minions, and factcheck say so.

Have I forgotten anything?


141 posted on 01/06/2009 8:23:05 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: Kevmo

Actually it’s pretty good.


142 posted on 01/06/2009 8:32:13 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: conservativegramma

Actually the name of the people who owned the birth announcement property in 1961 was Orland Scott and Thelma Jones Lefforge not Young.


143 posted on 01/06/2009 8:40:57 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: All

Has anyone thought to check the Hawaii newspapers for August 15 - 31, 1970 to see if there is a birth announcement for Maya?


144 posted on 01/06/2009 8:56:24 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: conservativegramma
12. The state of Hawaii affirms they have a document on file, newspapers run with the word that Obama is born in Honolulu, which Dr. Fukino never said. All that was ever said was that ‘the document is in accordance with all state law and procedure’.

Link for you:

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO, For Immediate Release, October 31, 2008, 08-93

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”

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145 posted on 01/06/2009 8:57:19 PM PST by thecodont
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To: mojitojoe; bronxboy

Bronxboy is the one who said that Gov. Lingle stated that 0bama was born in HI. He hasn’t provided a source yet that I know of.

Thanks for your quotes!


146 posted on 01/06/2009 9:50:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: bronxboy
If there sealed how would she ( Governor Lingle ) be able to see them?

And as for Ed your right. He sent me a dirty email because I emailed him and said berg had the Obama divorce papers before him. But whats funny he had a commercial tonight advising people to not send mean emails. And he cussed me out.

147 posted on 01/06/2009 9:58:48 PM PST by jarofants
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To: little jeremiah

If there sealed how would she ( Governor Lingle ) be able to see them?


148 posted on 01/06/2009 10:02:08 PM PST by jarofants
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To: jarofants

Comment 141 says all that I know. I have no idea if Gov. Lingle has ever seen his BC.


149 posted on 01/06/2009 10:04:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Chief Engineer; Polarik

Is Phil Berg’s copy of the Maya Soetoro Ng Hawaiian COLB available on-line?


150 posted on 01/06/2009 10:06:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: conservativegramma; winoneforthegipper

The real Gipper has his real long form birth certificate on display at the Reagan Library.


151 posted on 01/06/2009 10:06:35 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: IrishPennant

that is a Great Picture!


152 posted on 01/06/2009 10:17:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: bronxboy
I have no reason to disbelieve a Governor of Hawaii (Republican)-he was born in Hawaii. As far as I’m concerned he is eligible.

Why do you keep saying this? You have been shown quotes on other threads showing exactly what she said.

What is you agenda? Learning the facts sure doesn't apply.

154 posted on 01/06/2009 10:31:51 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Kevmo; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

OFFICER SUES TO CLARIFY IF HE HAS TO OBEY BARRY SOETORO

FULL TEXT

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/01/officer-lawsuit-do-i-have-to-obey-barry.html


155 posted on 01/07/2009 12:04:26 AM PST by FARS (If time permits, visit http://antimullah.com after reading all of FR posts)
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To: FARS

It’s Mind Over Matter!!!

I Ain’t Gunna Mind!!!

Cuz He Don’t Matter!!!...;0)


156 posted on 01/07/2009 12:20:36 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FARS

They may want to check their spelling prior to filing this lawsuit.

Defendant, Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama, [hereinafter “Soetoro”] is an adult individual and is a resident of Illinois, possibly Washington, D.C., and may be a Foreign National with an office addres of Presidential Transition Team,

451 Sixth Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20270;

Defendant, Joseph R. Biden, Jr. [hereinafter “Biden”] is a citizen of the United States with an office addres of Presidential Transition Team, 451 Sixth Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20270 and is a resident of Delaware and possibly Washington,
D.C.


157 posted on 01/07/2009 12:23:50 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: TruthWillWin
bronxboy always shows up when the bc is mentioned and he's always full of misinformation and innuendos. Lingle is no pal of obama’s. she campaigned for palin. when they said she sealed his bc in Hawaii she was fast to have them retract that statement and said she didn't seal anything and it was a lie.
158 posted on 01/07/2009 1:28:54 AM PST by mojitojoe
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To: WinOne4TheGipper; All
Still doesn’t account for the fact that the state of Hawaii vouches for the document.

Not true.

And “Polarik” isn’t even the guy’s real name? You cerifitruthers are being had.

The Gipper would tell you to "trust, but verify" in regards to the legitimacy of Comrade 0bama's birth certificate, but you're too intellectually lazy to even do that.

You're done your job for the day, submit your invoice for services rendered to:

Office of the President-Elect
Obama-Biden Transition Project
Washington, D.C. 20066

And the 'Dear Leader' thanks you for your loyalty.
159 posted on 01/07/2009 3:55:55 AM PST by mkjessup ("An empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Hussein Obama got out")
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To: Kevmo; Polarik
Good job, Polarik!

I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer.

I reckon she will know how to deal with any death threats eh?
Still, stay safe. A lot of LEOs failed to survive the Clinton administration.

160 posted on 01/07/2009 4:32:21 AM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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