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To: schaef21
"He has to be a “serious” scientist, which I’m assuming that you want to be the arbiter of that."

Not at all. In my mind, a "serious scientist" is doing actual research in his or her field, and publishing peer-reviewed results in recognized journals.

The importance of this is, when that happens, THEN you have an actual "scientific debate" going on. But now you don't. All you really have now is some obviously religiously motivated people lowdly shouting, "we don't want to believe what science is telling us!"

I've said before, you are 100% entitled to your religious beliefs, but you are not entitled to pretend your religion is a science, or that science is just another religion!

1,539 posted on 01/31/2009 7:46:23 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

****Not at all. In my mind, a “serious scientist” is doing actual research in his or her field, and publishing peer-reviewed results in recognized journals.

The importance of this is, when that happens, THEN you have an actual “scientific debate” going on. But now you don’t. All you really have now is some obviously religiously motivated people lowdly shouting, “we don’t want to believe what science is telling us!”****

Research is being done but nothing is being published and you know why....its in my previous post.

****Obviously religiously motivated****

This is obviously garbage. Many secular scientists are casting doubts and asking questions. Google David Berlinski (just one example), who has no religious ax to grind and see what he says.

****”we don’t want to believe what science is telling us!”****

By the way, for a lot of people (including a lot of scientists) it’s not that they don’t want to believe science, it’s that they believe the evidence for macroevolution to be specious and unconvincing.

So do I.


1,600 posted on 02/02/2009 3:04:32 PM PST by schaef21
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