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Hope this helps us clarify our positions and leads to more thoughtful discussions.
1 posted on 01/01/2009 3:39:55 PM PST by Jack Black
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I’m not a lawyer [I don’t even play one on TV.], but this looks like a good synopsis to me. Good work!


2 posted on 01/01/2009 3:52:34 PM PST by the_Watchman
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RE: NB3 — I thought that McCain qualified by dint of being born on a U.S. military base (bases being considered U.S. soil, as are embassies).
3 posted on 01/01/2009 4:05:30 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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"I believe Senator Obama to be three-fifths eligible to serve as President..."


4 posted on 01/01/2009 4:09:05 PM PST by billorites
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! One quick question: Should "POTUS" here read "SCOTUS"?

One practical problem for any of the "Three Type" advocates is that there are no other places in US Law where this distinction is made. Thus, in a real sense, advocates of these "Natural Born" definitions are asking POTUS to define this for the first time in the context of the Obama election. This seems unlikely from a pragmatic point of view.

5 posted on 01/01/2009 4:13:40 PM PST by kittykat77
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ATTABOY

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9 posted on 01/01/2009 4:41:53 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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12 posted on 01/01/2009 5:14:15 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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For advocates of this position the term "Natural Born" and "Native Born" are equivalent and identical.

Natural born had a particular meaning at the time the Constitution was written, for purposes of Constitutional requirements, it must retain that meaning. If Congress could change it, they could change a lot of other things in the Constituion, such as the menaing of "keep" and of "bear" and even of "arms".

Since Congress was not given the power to define Natural Born Citizen, but was given the power to define uniform rules for *naturalization*, it must be this power that Congress was exercising whenever it defined who shall be a citizen at birth. Thus such persons must be considered "naturalized at birth", rather than natural born, *unless* they also meet the requirements to be Natural born, as many, even most, do.

26 posted on 01/01/2009 10:09:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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This is well done. You must have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.


44 posted on 01/02/2009 5:54:37 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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Great work Jack.... I found these documents... maybe there is something here that will help....
http://www.rense.com/general84/obss.htm

These are documents obtained through the FOIA.


48 posted on 01/02/2009 8:27:07 AM PST by Sorry screen name in use
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Two types of citizenship recognized by US law.

Naturalized, meaning you went through a legal “naturalization” process to become a US citizen.

Natural born, meaning by the natural act of being born you had US citizenship.

Those who are US citizens at birth, and thus recognized as “natural born” citizens, are defined under Title 8 section 1401 of US law passed by Congress under Constitutional authority to define citizenship in Article I section 8.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html


73 posted on 01/02/2009 7:02:57 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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