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‘Go to hell, creationists!’ (Evo tolerance in action)
CMI ^ | December 30, 2008 | Carl Wieland

Posted on 12/30/2008 3:42:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Information scientist, author and evangelist, Dr Werner Gitt, a close friend of CMI, told us that on 23 October 2008 he was subjected to the most strident opposition he had ever encountered...

(Excerpt) Read more at creationontheweb.com ...


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To: metmom

How do you interpret the following versus?

Leviticus 19:16 – “Do not go about spreading slander among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor’s life. I am the Lord.” (NIV)

Romans 1:29 – “They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips.” (NIV)

1 Timothy 5:13 – “Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.”


281 posted on 01/01/2009 8:23:13 PM PST by DevNet
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To: CE2949BB

Oh, yes.


282 posted on 01/01/2009 8:26:53 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: DevNet

I didn’t see any false rumors...the only thing dishonest I’ve seen was your preposterous assertion that we didn’t know who’s side you’re on.

What a joke!


283 posted on 01/01/2009 8:28:20 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: CE2949BB

So when it comes to deciding which is true, science, which is continually changing as new data fits in, wins by default?

How are you so sure that it isn’t science that’s really wrong?


284 posted on 01/01/2009 8:30:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DevNet
Longview Baptist Temple across from Super One Foods in Longview Texas feels that reading the Bible literally is critical to ones salvation.

So they don't recognize poetry, song, proverb, allegory, metaphor, simile, etc?

285 posted on 01/01/2009 8:32:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
So when it comes to deciding which is true, science, which is continually changing as new data fits in, wins by default?

Changing? You mean that beautiful feature of science called self-correction?

How are you so sure that it isn’t science that’s really wrong?

LMAO!

The fact that you can even type that question, post it FR, have me and the rest of the people in this thread read it, and my response are proofs of the power of science.

So:

Heliocentrism or geocentrism, Metmom?

286 posted on 01/01/2009 8:36:31 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: metmom

The are a cult. They try to get their members to give them their paychecks then they give back what they think the member needs.

You can see their facility here - http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=80b&pwst=1&resnum=0&q=longview%20baptist%20temple&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

The also sometimes lock the doors to prohibit people from leaving the service without donating.


287 posted on 01/01/2009 8:37:52 PM PST by DevNet
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To: tpanther

I am on the side that has the most evidence to support it. The largest Christian denomination and I agree on the subject of evolution.


288 posted on 01/01/2009 8:39:06 PM PST by DevNet
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To: DevNet; All
Wikipedia: Evolution and the Roman Catholic Church :)

The position of the Catholic Church on the theory of evolution has moved over the last two centuries from a large period of no official mention, to a statement of neutrality in the 1950s, to a more explicit acceptance in recent years. Today, the official Church's position remains a focus of controversy and is fairly non-specific, stating only that faith and scientific findings regarding human evolution are not in conflict, though humans are regarded as a "special creation", and that the existence of God is required to explain the spiritual component of human origins. This view falls into the spectrum of viewpoints that are grouped under the concept of theistic evolution.

289 posted on 01/01/2009 8:42:48 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: tacticalogic

Are you that illiterate?

Here’s a link to teach you about figures of speech...

http://grammar.about.com/od/rhetoricstyle/a/20figures.htm

Examples of Scripture that should not always be taken as statements of fact would be songs and poems and psalms.

If something is declarative and says, *He said* or *she went* or *they traveled* it would not be a stretch to take that as a statement of fact, that something happened as it was recorded.

Why would you look for more meaning in something that is written as a declarative sentence?


290 posted on 01/01/2009 8:42:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DevNet
What is an evo cultist?

Can I take a stab at this one?

For a theory to be accepted as Scientific, it must be observed. It is impossible to observe evolution. If evolution is true, it occurs over millions of years. If you can not observe it, you can not prove it to be true. Therefore, a belief in evolution is just that, a belief. Evolution is not science. It is theory. One must 'believe' in evolution. It is not something anybody can prove. Therefore, evolution is working off of blind faith. There is no scientific data to prove that it does exist.

So, some may look at this as a cult that washes away truth. Can you believe in life that comes from the dead? For evolution to occur, life is brought forth from a dead universe. Now, evolutionist are believing in a resurrection of life from death and in the form of chaos (the big bang). Can life come from chaos? I think death comes from chaos. I accept life coming from death, only in the form of the Resurrection of Christ. Evolutionist can believe in their cult belief, and I will believe in mine. But I accept life from a creator, not life from death.

291 posted on 01/01/2009 8:43:21 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: CE2949BB

Don’t want you to think I’m being weird and just asking strange questions, but I’m a curious fellow and like to be as knowledgeable as possible. I “get” the image in your profile, but am not sure who is responsible for it. Googling works of art can be difficult, especially when the image was uploaded to tinypic and thus has a random name.


292 posted on 01/01/2009 8:43:55 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: CE2949BB
You'll either need to reinterpret your holy book in the light of science or ignore the embarrassing parts.

BTW, science isn't about truth, you know. It's a word best avoided in science. So you can't tell me that I'm wrong because you don't know what is true.

293 posted on 01/01/2009 8:44:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tpanther

No false rumors, just interpretation based on mountains of evidence. You know, kind of like the ToE.


294 posted on 01/01/2009 8:45:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Heliocentrism or geocentrism, Metmom?
295 posted on 01/01/2009 8:46:54 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: CE2949BB

If science changes as new data comes in, doesn’t that mean what was postulated before was wrong?

How can you use what is wrong to tell someone else that they are wrong?


296 posted on 01/01/2009 8:47:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tacticalogic
Do you imagine yourself to be a "safe target"?

Are you asking me because you don't know whether or not it's smart to mouth off to me? You know, you can always play it safe and go harrass the folks in the trailer park.

Your religious beliefs aren't my concern. It doesn't bother me as long as you don't bother me with it.

You mean as long as I "acknowledge" that religion is subjective ethno-cultural moral philosophy illustrated by mythology and has no bearing whatsoever upon the "real world?"

Suppose I demand that secularists keep their secularism to themselves? After all, it's not as if there were any obligation or even merit in "scientific truth" in a meaningless world.

297 posted on 01/01/2009 8:47:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vay'omer Yosef 'el-'echayv "'Ani Yosef; ha`od 'avi chay?" velo'-yakhelu 'echayv la`anot 'oto . . .)
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To: DevNet
The are a cult.

Not Christians after all.

Thank you.

298 posted on 01/01/2009 8:48:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: do the dhue

I could provide examples of observed evolution but I doubt that you would read them.


299 posted on 01/01/2009 8:48:41 PM PST by DevNet
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To: metmom

You still have yet to reply to my post on what the Bible teaches about the spreading of rumors.

May I expect an answer soon?


300 posted on 01/01/2009 8:50:17 PM PST by DevNet
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