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‘Go to hell, creationists!’ (Evo tolerance in action)
CMI ^ | December 30, 2008 | Carl Wieland

Posted on 12/30/2008 3:42:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Information scientist, author and evangelist, Dr Werner Gitt, a close friend of CMI, told us that on 23 October 2008 he was subjected to the most strident opposition he had ever encountered...

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To: DevNet

I can’t speak for those people, but did you read my post at 296?

According to Darwin himself, life must begin simple. If life begins complex, you have the signature of God. I don’t think Darwin would believe in evolution, if he knew what we knew today.

I don’t know, but I would say that some people have evolution confused with growth. Does the human evolve from a fetus to a newborn? Or does it grow? Off the top of my head, that is what I would say.


261 posted on 01/01/2009 7:17:32 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: metmom

Longview Baptist Temple across from Super One Foods in Longview Texas feels that reading the Bible literally is critical to ones salvation.


262 posted on 01/01/2009 7:17:56 PM PST by DevNet
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To: tacticalogic
I take issue with bad logic and emotionally driven and manipulative tactics.

Correction: you take issue with such tactics only when the target is safe, and you know it. I wonder how you'd react if evolution were ever attacked in the name of the vast spiritual wisdom of "non-Western cultures???"

Considering how little courage is required to bash "slack-jawed trailer park yokels," I wonder if you realize what cowards and bullies people seem who concentrate exclusively on them and never utter a word about anyone else's religiosity, dogmatism, or "dominionism?"

The contents of my religion are simple: the Torah is absolute. Do you understand what that means? Does it bother you?

You descendants of white European chr*tians are just going to have to get used to "otherness!"

263 posted on 01/01/2009 7:25:31 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vay'omer Yosef 'el-'echayv "'Ani Yosef; ha`od 'avi chay?" velo'-yakhelu 'echayv la`anot 'oto . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Correction: you take issue with such tactics only when the target is safe, and you know it. I wonder how you'd react if evolution were ever attacked in the name of the vast spiritual wisdom of "non-Western cultures???"

Do you imagine yourself to be a "safe target"?

264 posted on 01/01/2009 7:29:42 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DevNet
Maybe, I should apologize to your friends, because I really wanted a reason to use my new buzzword for 2009 ;-)

See below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2157200/posts

265 posted on 01/01/2009 7:31:56 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The contents of my religion are simple: the Torah is absolute. Do you understand what that means? Does it bother you?

Your religious beliefs aren't my concern. It doesn't bother me as long as you don't bother me with it.

266 posted on 01/01/2009 7:32:38 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: do the dhue

As long as you don’t use the word paradigum :)


267 posted on 01/01/2009 7:39:18 PM PST by DevNet
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To: do the dhue
Evolutionist are Christianphobes.

Certainly the evo cultists are, no doubt about that.

268 posted on 01/01/2009 7:42:00 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: DevNet

I need a definition before I can use it. Be back....


269 posted on 01/01/2009 7:43:17 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: tpanther

What is an evo cultist?


270 posted on 01/01/2009 7:56:48 PM PST by DevNet
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To: tpanther
Certainly the evo cultists are, no doubt about that.

I heard that them evos are members of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy!

271 posted on 01/01/2009 7:58:04 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: DevNet
Is this another spelling for paradigm? Or is this a Heavy Metal band?

BTW: I just found this word used at du. I think it was meant as a paradigm shift, but I aint real sure. To be sure, I would have to think like a leftist. For me to think like a leftist, I would have to pull the spine out of my back, paint my belly yellow, and remove 99% of my brain. So, I think I will stop now and never use the word. I am with you.

272 posted on 01/01/2009 8:00:08 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: CE2949BB

What you hope and believe is not the focus of the sentence. Why should we embrace evolution as the tool He used? How do you know it is?

Bible literalism as used by the evos is taking every word of the Bible as literal, word for word, not recognizing allegory, metaphor, etc. Changing the meaning of Bible literalism is moving the goalposts.

A plain, face value reading of the Bible, while recognizing allegory, metaphor, etc, is not the literalism as defined by the evos. The evos consistently attack creationists for taking the Bible literally and not recognizing different literary styles. I don’t know of any group that does not recognize different literary styles and how to interpret them.

The literary error is to take something that is a s simple statement and try to read more into than is meant.

So when it says, Gen 2:7 “Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.”

there is no reason that that cannot be taken as a simple statement of fact and there’s no reason to try to read more into it and interpret it to say the God used evolution to create man. That’s twisting Scripture. But that is not demanding that the whole Bible be taken literally, word for word.


273 posted on 01/01/2009 8:00:37 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
there is no reason that that cannot be taken as a simple statement of fact and there’s no reason to try to read more into it and interpret it to say the God used evolution to create man. That’s twisting Scripture. But that is not demanding that the whole Bible be taken literally, word for word.

Can you give us examples of scripture that should not be taken as simple statements of fact, and what methodology is used to determine which is which?

274 posted on 01/01/2009 8:05:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: metmom
Why should we embrace evolution as the tool He used?

Heliocentrism or geocentrism, Metmom?

You'll either need to reinterpret your holy book in the light of science or ignore the embarrassing parts.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

275 posted on 01/01/2009 8:16:04 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: CE2949BB

By the way, your tagline... who are you fighting?


276 posted on 01/01/2009 8:20:26 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: do the dhue

That is correct. It is from an IBM add from the .com days - around 2000 - 2001.


277 posted on 01/01/2009 8:21:05 PM PST by DevNet
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To: NinoFan

It was in response to the GOP’s loss.


278 posted on 01/01/2009 8:21:23 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: CE2949BB

Right on.


279 posted on 01/01/2009 8:22:01 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan

I’m sure it can be, ah, misinterpreted. ;)


280 posted on 01/01/2009 8:22:57 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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