Posted on 12/22/2008 4:56:42 PM PST by Bill Dupray
When the news broke that Fred Thompson would be taking over Bill O'Reilly's radio spot, FredHeads cheered. It was reported that Rudy Giuliani was in negotiations for the gig as well. Rudy may give the SoCons fits, but on fiscal conservatism, taxes, and national security, he is one of the best. He also doesn't take any crap from anyone, especially liberals.
And Rudy is no stranger to radio, having hosted a weekly call-in show back in the 1990's. Had he beaten out Thompson for the job, we may have been treated to some great, snarky stuff like this.
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Fred is taking Bo’s timeslot?
Huzzah!
Good for Rudy! That guy was a nut.
Revisionist bunkum. Rooty is no fiscal conservative. That was proven during the recnt GOP campaign. He is a liberal and he supports abortion on demand. Scumbag is the word that comes to mind most often.
Giuliani doesn’t even know the meaning of the words fiscal conservatism.
Huh? He has always been in favor of cutting taxes and reducing government spending.
“Revisionist bunkum. Rooty is no fiscal conservative. That was proven during the recnt GOP campaign. He is a liberal and he supports abortion on demand. Scumbag is the word that comes to mind most often. “
Here we go again. This pseudo-conservative nonsense is the reason that BHO is president.
How in the world does being pro-life equate to pseudo-conservative nonsense?
A fully implemented Fairness Doctrine would make this story moot.
Keep the drumbeat strong for 8 years of BHO. Giuliani was the strongest CONSERVATIVE candidate we had. However, single issue pseudo-cons felt that it was more important to post pictures of him in a theatrical performance dressed as a woman. Pseudo-cons gave 2008 to BHO, and they’re working on a repeat performance in 2012.
Giuliani not only supports abortion on demand, partial birth abortion and Roe v. Wade. He also supports taxpayer funded abortions, embryonic stem cell research, gay domestic partnership --- aka.civil unions, an openly gay military, a path to citizenship for illegals, sanctuary cities, gun control and gun confiscation, an assault weapons ban, frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers, extensive gun registration/licensing and he believes man is responsible for global warming.
At the same time Rooty opposes the Defense of Marriage Act and a Federal Marriage Amendment. He also changed his tune on several other critical issues during the campaign.
If you support Rooty, you're no conservative.
As Reagan Man pointed out in post 12, Giuliani is way out in left field on numerous (most) issues. He is the most liberal conservative that I’ve ever seen run for the office of president. As a father of three, a gunsmith, gunstore owner, taxpayer and strict-constructionist I can safely say that I will never vote for such a “conservative”.
Your accusation that not voting for Yankee-Boy was the cause of BHO’s success strikes me as bizarre at best and as intentional agitprop at worst. Heck, McCain was Giuliani Light and he lost because he was too mushy/middle.
I’ve been in a coma? That sounds like a personal attack. Mods? Your thoughts?
Giuliani is a tax cutter, strong on defense, would have appointed Scalia clones to the USSC, and would have actually fought to win the election, unlike McCain. He is a conservative, and will continue to be. I’d love to see a Giuliani-Palin ticket in ‘12, now that the pseudo-cons have blown it for the country in ‘08.
“Yankee Boy”? It sounds like your opposition is due more to regionalism than ideology. Do you have something against Italian Americans?
“Do you have something against Italian Americans?”
No, not really, as me dear mother’s a wop (mostly). A damn Joisey yankee wop at that! I love her just the same though.
You don’t need to presume where my opposition comes from since it was clearly stated in my post. The Yankee-boy stuff was just a gratuitous insult for the gun-grabbing bastard who gives the many good Yankee-Eyetalians a bad name.
What? You got a problem with short, Scotch-Irish, Appalachian-Americans?
Again. There is nothing conservative about Rooty. Which is why FRee Republic rejected his run for POTUS from the get-go. That should tell you all you need to know.
Not only is Rooty a social liberal, he's a fiscal liberal. Rooty is no more conservative than Joe Lieberman. Both support a strong defense. So did LBJ and FDR. BFD!
Now pay attention. You just may learn something.
The Real Rudy Record
From the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research (Edmund J. McMahon):
"Even with the tax cuts of the last several years, New York remains by far the most heavily taxed big city in the country."
TAXES: From 1996-2001 Giuliani and the City Council agreed to reduce marginal city income taxes by some $2.0-billion, an effort that offset the $1.8-billion tax increase put in place by Mayor Dinkins a few years earlier. So in reality, individual city income taxes were actually cut by a modest $200-million. Giuliani made no effort to make permanent changes to the city income tax code. Giuliani even fought efforts to abolish a 12.5% tax surcharge. The primary reason Rudy and the City Council agreed to cut business taxes, was to make NYCity more appealing to companies thinking about locating/relocating to the Big Apple. A smart move, however, when Rudy left office he left NYCity straddled with some of the highest income, sales, property and general corporation taxes in the entire nation.
GOVERNMENT SPENDING: Spending under Rudy`s reign as Mayor went up 35.6%, compared to the inflation rate of 22.2%. Rudy left NYCity with a projected, pre-9/11 deficit of $2.0 billion and an increased debt total topping $42-billion. Second largest debt after the federal government. Giuliani also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls. Increasing the membership of two major liberal organizations, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).
"The scope of government was not reduced at all. The mayor abandoned his most visible initiative in this sphere—the proposed sale of the city hospital system—after a struggle with the unions and defeats in the courts. He did cut costs in social services; even before the new federal welfare reforms took effect in 1997, the city had begun to significantly reduce caseloads. But money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the city—from day care to virtually guaranteed housing—is as wide as ever.
"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficiently—not to make the city deliver fewer services. Gains in efficiency were offset, however, by a spike in the costs of outsourced contracts (see point 2 below). Thus, in two areas where inroads might have been made, the city instead failed to reduce spending."
"1. Personnel Increases. In 1995–96, the city entered into a series of collective bargaining agreements with its public-employee unions. In addition to granting pay increases that ended up roughly equaling inflation, the city promised not to lay off any workers for the life of the contracts. These agreements were expected to add $2.2 billion to the budget by fiscal 2001. But that estimate didn’t reckon with renewed growth in the number of city employees. After dipping in Giuliani’s first two years, the full-time headcount rose from 235,069, in June 1996 to over 253,000 by November 2000. Thanks largely to this growth in the workforce, the total increase in personnel service costs since 1995 has been $4 billion.
2. "Outsourced Services. The failure to shrink the scope of city government made it all the more imperative that Mayor Giuliani vastly increase its efficiency. In the attempt to increase productivity, the mayor farmed out some city services to private contractors. But as the number of outsourced contracts doubled under Giuliani, contractual expenses also nearly doubled—from $3 billion to $5.8 billion. While it may be argued that the city saved money by outsourcing these services, the net savings turned out to be marginal at best. In practice, outsourcing proved to be more of a bargaining chip in negotiations with unions than a serious means of pruning expenses."
Hard evidence that Rudy Giuliani was NO fiscal conservative. Another run-of-the-mill NY City liberal ---AKA. "Rockefeller Republican".
BEEP BEEP BEEP
That’s the sound of the cherry picker backing up as it attempts to access more “facts” in support of a unsustainable premise.
Rudy is a conservative. He was the best candidate in the GOP field. The myopic pseudo-cons are patting themselves on their backs because they ensured his loss, yet they straddled the country with BHO. Nice job, PCs.
And FR is not the barometer of conservatism.
Spoken like a good liberal. No wonder you like Rooty. LOL Ignore the facts, full speed ahead....
Spoken like a good liberal. No wonder you like Rooty. LOL Ignore the facts, full speed ahead....
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