Posted on 12/17/2008 10:05:48 AM PST by autumnraine
I read a post the other day that a Freeper got from Congressman John Linder, Georgia, stating that he would stand and object to Obama if he doesn't show proof of constitutional eligibility.
I emailed Mr. Linder and asked if he did indeed write that email and if he was serious about holding Obama to task on something as serious as this.
A few moments ago I received a phone call from Congressman Linder's office confirming that he intends to do exactly that and he is just as intent as us on verifying Obama's eligibility.
I told his staffer (very nice lady) that I was proud of him and that I appreciated his bravery as I know he is going against the tide with this.
She said that she herself was concerned as she had to show full, long form documentation to even work in the building for a Congressman and we shouldn't be told to just take someone's word for an office as important as POTUS.
Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that at least one Congressman is standing up to this, even if the SCOTUS doesn't have the nerve to examine what would seem to be a reasonable question.
Thank you! I’ll do some of the ones in GA, but it’s not fun fishing out all the politcal stuff from my mail before my parents try to get to it (they are dems, and oh would they be ticked if they knew that I just sent that)
you seem either scared or annoted that some people are asking Obama to go to all the trouble to produce a birth certificate.
Why?
you seem either scared or annoted that some people are asking Obama to go to all the trouble to produce a birth certificate.
Why?
you seem either scared or annoted that some people are asking Obama to go to all the trouble to produce a birth certificate.
Why?
you seem either scared or annoted that some people are asking Obama to go to all the trouble to produce a birth certificate.
Why?
you seem either scared or annoyed that some people are asking Obama to go to all the trouble to produce a birth certificate.
Why?
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
Call the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for his office. Tell his folks to give him a HUGE “THANK YOU” for doing something even the Supremes didn’t have the guts to do.
see posts 78 and 85.
I’ll be shocked if Linder does what he says.
Back in ‘98, I worked for a nursing home and the owners took money out of our checks for health insurance and left us hanging. They never even set up insurance. NOW those crooks are doing Fed. time in the pen, but I got jabbed with serious bills....the birth of our last child among others.
I requested assitance from the insurance commish, John Oxendine, John Linder, Paul Coverdale, several others...and Linder sent me a letter back lecturing me about medicare!
I’m wholly UNimpressed with the man.
The ONLY one I was impressed with was Barbara Bunn (R), not because of the help I got, but because of her honesty....she said she could not help because:
“I’m in bed with the insurance companies!”
Literally her words, verbatim.
The crooks filed bankruptcy and I never saw a dime...but the lawyers in NY got alot richer.
It doesn’t matter. The challenge is voted on by both chambers and the chance of the challenge being upheld by a vote is exactly zero.
Emailed him yesterday.
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Its the responsibility of the Electoral College, the Secretary of States, and either the democrat or republican party bigwigs to make sure the candidates are qualified/eligible to run for president. Apparently, all of these people were willing to just accept the Messiahs word for it!!
Here is the language in the Constitution of the United States: Article II, Section 1, subsection [5]: No Person except a natural born Citizen shall be eligible to the Office of President .
A natural born citizen is someone who was born on United States soil from parents who were US citizens. Its should be obvious why the Founding Fathers put this in our Constitution they did not want a foreigner or someone whose allegiance might be somewhere other than with and for America to occupy the most powerful seat in the world.
This question has been out there for over 6 months, but the presstitutes did not do their job and can no longer be trusted. Also, apparently, the Secretaries of State, the democrat party, and the Electoral College neglected to verify BHOs eligibility.
So, others have been keeping an eye on the story. (Note that McCain was asked to produce his birth certificate and did so promptly.) When BHO could no longer ignore the issue, he posted a copy of a Certification of Live Birth on his website. Unfortunately, this is NOT the original, long-form birth certificate. The Certification does not give all the info needed to say that BHO was natural born. Only the original, long-form birth cert shows that info.
This is the Certification [insert green cert]
This is what an original, long-form birth cert looks like [insert black redacted bc]
There have been valid questions raised on the veracity of the certification itself.
A whole lot of people now just want to see the durned original, long-form birth cert. Also, most of us want younger Americans to KNOW that there were plenty of Americans in 2008 who stood up and made objection to this trampling on our precious Constitution. I say that in case 20-30 years from now my younger friends are wondering what the HELL happened to our constitutional republic, once the envy of the world.
After questions arose about the Certification posted on a website, BHO then went to Hawaii to visit his sick white grandmother. Shortly thereafter authorities in Hawaii claimed they had the original, long-form birth cert, but that it was under lock and key and could only be released on BHOs orders, which he has refused to do. They ONLY said they had the original, not what it said (i.e. whether BHO was actually natural born).
Note that BHOs grandmother has since passed away, but he never went to her funeral. However, he is supposedly going to Hawaii for the holidays. It will be interesting to see if shortly after he returns his original, long-form birth cert surfaces.
Meanwhile, between 12 and 17 lawsuits have been filed regarding this issue and most are still making their way through the lower courts. Two cases have thus far made it to the Supreme Court. One was Leo Donofrios, which was ultimately submitted (the 2nd submission) to Justice Clarence Thomas for closed door conference to decide whether or not they would hear the case. It was denied without comment. Donofrios case was asking for a determination of the meaning of natural born citizen.
The next one was Cort Wrotnoskis case, also submitted by one of the Justices for closed door hearing, but also denied without comment.
The next one up is Philip Bergs case, docket #08-570 (www.scotusblog.com). Berg is a Hillary supporting democrat. He supposedly has an affidavit from BHOs grandmother in Kenya stating that she was present at his birth in Kenya. The lower courts denied this case because Berg doesnt have standing. It is schedule to be reviewed by Supremes on Jan 9th.
Alan Keyes also has a case making its way through the CA judicial system. Its scheduled for hearing in CA Superior Ct in March. From there, it would go to the CA Supreme Ct.
Here are two utube vids from Dr. Orly Taitz, Alan Keyes attorney, a Russian immigrant who knows all too well what will happen to us if we trample on our Constitution:
Vid # 1 (9 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6EVFvwubJQ&feature=channel_page
Vid # 2 (7 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLNo4zUok8&feature=channel_page
Theres at least one case in the State of Washington, Wroe v. Reed (Pidgeons case) that looks promising because WA recently changed their laws to give _____ standing to bring suit. If this goes well, the votes in WA could be pulled for BHO or withheld until BHO produces a valid birth cert.
Meanwhile, the Electoral College counted our votes as per usual on 12/15 for BHO. The next step is for Congress, especially the VP Dick Cheney, to certify the vote. This takes place on Jan 8 2009.
Back to the Constitution: Amendment XX, Section 3: if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the VP elect shall act as President until a Pres shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a Pres elect nor a VP elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected and such person shall act accordingly until a Pres or VP shall have qualified.
Most recently, I learned that Congressman John Linder from Georgia is keeping his eye on this issue and has stated he will keep open his option to object on Jan 8th. His office stated that they were hopeful it would be resolved before then, but that they were as concerned as some of us are about the issue. His office told me that a written objection had to be made and it had to be signed onto by a senator.
Here is a copy of an email from Congressman Linder: This story has been percolating in the media for a number of months. Unfortunately, unless Senator Obama produces the documentation on his own, at this time, there is no way to verify if he is in fact a natural born citizen of the United States. On January 8, 2009, both the U.S. Senate and House shall meet for the purpose of counting and certifying the electoral votes. After the vote has been counted, the President of the Senate shall call for objections. It is at this time that Federal officials in both the House and Senate may object to the certification of President-elect Obama by alleging that he fails to meet the Constitutional requirements to serve as President of the United States. Please be assured that I will continue to monitor this issue very carefully, and I will act when appropriate and necessary. Again, thank you for contacting me. If I can be of further assistance in the future, please do not hesitate to call on me.
Objection procedure is covered in the U.S. Code: 3 USC 15 - Sec. 15. Counting electoral votes in Congress: Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received
Heres an old story from Fox news 2005 outlining the objection procedure. Bushs certification was objected to by rat Sen Boxer from CA and rat Congresswoman Tubbs Jones from OH because of voting irregularities! If our rotten experience with ACORN this election doesnt qualify for an objection, nothing does! But were more concerned about the birth cert right now. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143510,00.html
The toll-free telephone number to the capital is 877-762-8762. You can call Linders office yourself and congratulate/support him for his courage. You can call your senator and ask him or her to sign on to the objection. You can call VP Cheneys office and ask him to look into the issue.
Thanks and may G-d, the Holy One of Israel, truly bless America.
I am sorry to hear your story, but I’m not surprised. You’re probably still paying the durned bill off!
Don’t we all hear too darned many stories like this. You know the old saying about the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer, blahblahblah.
I can hardly keep up anymore with all the ‘rat crap! It’s one boiling pot after another. Personally, I see us moving closer and closer and closer to Orwell’s vision in “1984.” Not to mention Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged.”
We just have to keep on standing watch and fighting and trying to persuade/convince people that, altho there are certainly tin foil hat issues, when it comes to our Constitution it is decidedly NOT a tin foil issue.
All that said, I, too, will be shocked if Linder (or anyone else) actually does something about this constitutional eligibility issue.
I for one believe that G-d is still on His throne and that an angel still directs the storm.
And, unlike BHO’s “pastor,” I say:
May the Good LORD richly BLESS America!
Never ever ever ever ever give up.
I'm not scared but I am annoyed. Why do so many people want to marginalize themselves as kooks by pursuing a wild goose chase?
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