1) No, he didn't
2) Even if he had, that would not be sufficient.
3) Troll Be Gone
Posted on 12/13/2008 7:31:52 AM PST by Polarik
One day before the six-month anniversary of Obama's forged birth certificate posting, Factcheck.org packed up its tent, hopped back on its high horse, and rode out of Dodge. In the wake of their run for cover, Factcheck left behind a cutesy video titled, the "Circus is Still in Town," likening what's left of the 2008 election cycle to a three-ring circus -- and who knows more about a circus than a bunch of clowns pretending to be a nonpartisan research group?
Here is a link to the video: "Good-bye for Now"
In "Ring Number One," as the smarmy-mouthed commentator babbled on, and as the title header changed,
"We have the repeatedly answered but persistent question of the President-Elect citizenship. {The new header now reads Obama is a Natural-Born Citizen: Supreme Court rejects birth certificate challenge} Pay particular attention to her body language and the positioning of her head to her body-- she appears as if she is either hard-of-hearing or needs to talk out of the left side of her mouth. I might opt for the latter explanation if Factcheck had not been been talking out of both sides all year long.
The commentator begins by scolding Factcheck's critics as if they were children, "We received several e-mails questioning Obama's status as a US-born natural citizen, even after we published multiple reports on the subject, that Obama has furnished the documentation necessary to prove that he is, indeed, a US citizen."
Notice how coyly Factcheck states a bald-faced lie in that last sentence. First, they claim that they have received several "emails questioning Obama's status as a US-born natural citizen," as if three emails are the most important challenges to their "Natural-born" lie. But, then they end it saying that Obama "furnished documentation to prove that he is a US citizen," which is also a lie in addition to not providing any documentation on his alleged "natural-born status."
The next sequence shows a background graphic of an email form, like Windows Mail, followed by heavy, black letters appearing one letter at a time, as if they were being typed by a real person creating a real email. Both the choices and content of the emails are bogus as well. They are carefully crafted "straw men" deliberately written and worded to make the viewer believe that stupid people who cannot spell wrote these, thus making it child's play for the condescending commentator to either trash them or ignore them with ease.
The first "email" writes that the birth certificate (COLB) is questionable because it came from a "tainted source," the Obama campaign. However, no comment from the commentator. The second "email" says that Factcheck never looked at the original birth certificate because it lacked footprints or hand prints, "You never had a baby or you would know that they print his foot prints on 3 or 4 blank birth certificate documents." No comment again.
But, then the commentator continues, "And yet we others claim that because "Obama held US and Kenyan citizenship as a child...he lost his Kenyan citizenship after he turned 21." However, the actual text on their email graphic reads that "If he [Obama] held U.K. citizenship and Kenyan citizenship when he was born, then he cannot be a natural born citizen of the US." Notice that the question specifically states that Obama held dual citizenship when he was born, but Factcheck changed "born" to "child," thinking it has avoided the problem of "When did Obama acquire Kenyan citizenship?" and, most importantly, was Obama born in Kenya?"
Well, wouldn't you know that the last "email" they posted completely changed the subject as it was written as if it came from an anti-Obama Troll," You lowlife anti constitutional dirtbags. You didn;t fool everyone!"
The title header changes once again, with the tag line reading, "Creative insults don't change the facts." Insults may not change the truth, but the truth is of no concern to Factcheck. Factcheck The commentator continues, "But regardless of what some people may think of our reporting, the Supreme Court has rejected a challenge by..." and then launches into a bastardized description of Leo Donofrio's case. She then says that, "There is at least one other case.." referring, of course, to Phil Berg's lawsuit, focusing only on the part that claims Obama was born in Kenya, and not Hawaii. Then, with her eyebrows raised and her eyelids shut, and in a demeaning tone of voice, she conveys that quintessential air of superiority so typical of the Leftist media, the commentator rebuffs Berg's notion by stating,"Berg has produced no proof to support his claim."
This would have been a good time to switch the header graphic to read, "Condescending blow-offs don't change the facts."
This piece ends with a complete misquote from Hawaii's Vital Statistics rules that, "Birth certificates may not be seen by persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record." So much for "checking facts." The correct wording of the rule is that, "A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record." NOTE: there is a huge difference between "seeing" someone's certified birth certificate, and "being issued" someone's birth certificate. America has been asking Obama to SHOW HIS REAL, CERTIFIED PAPER DOCUMENT, and not for 300 million of us to receive our own certified copy of it.
Keep in mind, also, the big difference between asking for and receiving a "certified copy" of a birth record, and one that is not certified -- which is called a "Letter of Verification," and is one that an agency can request and receive.
Finally, Factcheck throws in the oft-misquoted statement made by Directors Fukino and Onaka of Hawaii's health Department. Although the commentator read it verbatim, the timing and placement of it (at the end) was done to makle the viewer think that the brass at the Health Department verified Obama's Hawaiian birth -- which has never been done, and is the only thing that we ask. Factcheck's fraud, however, is intended to keep us from even asking the question.
So, why did Factcheck make such a hasty exit? I've heard a rumor that they are laying low for legal reasons, but I do not know why. After all, what do they have to hide? {chuckle-chuckle}
Or, "What Factcheck's image scan might have been if it were not bogus."
I made a video, dedicated to FReepers everywhere, that demonstrates the proper scan a real, paper Certification of Live Birth so that ALL of its critical features are visible, such as the Seal, upper fold, lower fold, and the texture of the paper. I also show how to use
As soon as I get the file uploaded, I'll post it.
I didn’t make it up. Just repeating what I thought was common knowledge. I’d never heard it refuted before. My bad. Thanks for the info. Links please?
Factcheck is not a factual or a reliable organization. That link has been proven false so many times, not to mention their association with Obama and his supporters is laughable.
FactCheck's photos of Obama's birth certificate just proved that their posted image of it was forged
Ping. Interesting thread after watching the video.
Obama doesn’t need to convince you, me, or mr. Polarik. The people whose job it is to check his qualifications are the house members and senators that meet when Congress counts the electoral votes. There will be a call for objections before Obama is declared POTUS, this is the time for any questions to be resolved. Congress will have the final say.
Looking forward to seeing the video.
Keep up the good work Ron.
It's obvious when you think about it. It isn't named "FactVerification.org" or "FactInvestigation.org".
1) No, he didn't
2) Even if he had, that would not be sufficient.
3) Troll Be Gone
I dobut that Obama's does either, seeing as how his foot was in his mouth, and his hands were in the doctor's pocket at the time.
Yes, that’s right. Or, you can think of it as a “Fact Check” that bounced.
-PJ
-PJ
Heh.
Then how do you know you were actually born?
LOL! Good one.
Using factcheck.org to validate factcheck.org’s claims. Thanks for the laugh.
Whoever made this statement is incorrect. Years ago they used to put the foot print on the Hospital Certificate for a souvenier for the parent.
My grandchildren were born in the 90's and I was surprised to learn they no longer gave you a Hospital Certificate with a foot print. We had to go home and get an ink pad and do it ourselves if we wanted a footprint. I have yet to see an Official Certificate of Live Birth with a footprint on it.
Actually he hasn’t produced a damned thing. FactCheck and FighttheSmears posted a graphic image of a supposed COLB, which can readily be proved to be a fake or, if you prefer, a forgery.
There are numerous discrepancies.
Producing a doctored COLB in poor definition on-line is not the same as an official COLB. And a COLB isn’t the same thing as a copy of the original vault certificate. Even if it were genuine—which it is not—it would not prove that Obama is a natural born citizen.
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