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Ron Paul: We're in the Midst of Nationalization...
Feed Your ADHD ^ | 12/11/2008 | Dr. Dave

Posted on 12/11/2008 4:38:14 PM PST by bloodmeridian

...and no one gives a whimper.

From the man who SHOULD be president-elect.

(Excerpt) Read more at feedyouradhd.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: autobailout; ronpaul
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To: bloodmeridian

Ping to read later


21 posted on 12/11/2008 5:04:06 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: bloodmeridian

oh big gigantic barf!


22 posted on 12/11/2008 5:12:00 PM PST by RDTF (BO smells and eventually people do what's necessary to avoid it)
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To: bloodmeridian

Governor Palin, if you are listening: talk to Congressman Ron Paul. Invite him to AK to talk with him about American economics and capitalist free markets. This will be one of your many winning platforms to win the Presidency in 2012. Then, to return the favor, make Ron Paul your Secretary of the Treasury.


23 posted on 12/11/2008 5:14:56 PM PST by LiberConservative ("I would have looked forward to debating anybody." -Sarah Palin)
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To: hedgetrimmer

The gov is nationalizing... what is left if they actually go forward?


24 posted on 12/11/2008 5:15:50 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: bloodmeridian

He’s not president because he comes off as some kind of nerdy dweeb. That and his fans come off as a bunch of kooks.

The secret service confiscated a bunch of ron paul money. What the heck is that all about? They were minting their own money? Pretty weird.


25 posted on 12/11/2008 5:19:26 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: bloodmeridian

Yeah - good thing “conservatives” didn’t rally around him. /s


26 posted on 12/11/2008 5:19:35 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: bloodmeridian

27 posted on 12/11/2008 5:30:31 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: bloodmeridian

I voted for him in the primaries.


28 posted on 12/11/2008 5:36:46 PM PST by dbz77
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To: marron
Axelrod is as good, or better, than Carl Rove.

Democrats really, really wanted it, and were unified.

Obama is a great campaigner. Reagan, Clinton size.

Republicans have been on fumes for years. Hasteret house and Lott Senate.

The RNC was/is pathetic.

Then of course the B team of Republican candidates.

Still, with Bush and the war, and all the vomit the GOP/RNC has poured over Republicans, I'm surprised it was as close as it was.

29 posted on 12/11/2008 5:44:26 PM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Democrat forever. " Lenin)
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To: edpc
No write-ins on your ballot?

Doesn't count unless the candidate is a qualified and certified write-in.

30 posted on 12/11/2008 6:57:43 PM PST by Gary Johnson in 2012 (Gary Johnson for President in 2012.)
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To: NavVet

What’s crazy are the Republicans who have bought into the globalist dogma.


31 posted on 12/11/2008 8:25:39 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Ron Paul made the same mistake as every other independent, putting ego ahead of ideas.

I think you've got him mixed up with 'maverick' John McCain. And he did not run as an independent.

The problem here is corruption in the Republican party, not Dr. Paul and his steadfast support of liberty.
32 posted on 12/11/2008 8:27:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: bloodmeridian

RP is a kook, sorry, no sale.


33 posted on 12/11/2008 8:30:09 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Not only that, but blackmailed by foreign Oil money.

America may be getting hijacked by the “Jihad” candidate backed by foreign Oil money.

In return, the US economy gets bailed out by the same foreign Oil regime (i.e. Saudi Arabia) in exchange for getting a Candidate of their own liking (or choosing) in office.


34 posted on 12/11/2008 8:36:02 PM PST by jetxnet
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To: Leisler
Still, with Bush and the war, and all the vomit the GOP/RNC has poured over Republicans,

and Obama enjoying the biggest media tailwind in the history of Earth,

I'm surprised it was as close as it was.

Yep, same here. It shows the silent majority is real and is out there, even if it wasn't quite a majority this time. With a better candidate, we could have won.

35 posted on 12/11/2008 8:47:41 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Gary Johnson in 2012

In which primaries was he not qualified?


36 posted on 12/11/2008 9:32:48 PM PST by edpc
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To: hedgetrimmer

Most “anti-globalist” are simply communists arguing against evil capitalism.


37 posted on 12/12/2008 2:40:46 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: edpc
I thought we were talking about the general. In the primaries not everyone had a chance to vote for him. Especially libertarians in closed-primary states.
38 posted on 12/12/2008 4:59:15 AM PST by Gary Johnson in 2012 (Gary Johnson for President in 2012.)
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To: Yardstick
Not better, We needed a great candidate, with a Rove/Axelrod.
As the votes get closer, the difficulty increases.
39 posted on 12/12/2008 5:26:18 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Democrat forever. " Lenin)
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To: hedgetrimmer

He ran as an independent within the Republican party. Much of a muchness. The difference is organizational. Candidates need to run as part of a bloc, when they are running against those who have bloc support.

Paul could have done this, and he could still do this. In fact right now, when the Republicans are down in the dumps, he should be getting ready to run 20 or 30 candidates in the next congressional races, against both weak Republicans in the primaries, and weak Democrats in the general election.

If he could keep his bloc working as a team, with a limited set of goals, and something of a standardized campaign structure, the field would be wide open for him. With 30 candidates he would almost certainly get bloc seats. Though all officially Republicans, that would matter less than their internal structure.

The essential thing is that, even with a small bloc of elected officials, Paul would triangulate both the Republicans and Democrats, and play both sides.

The most recent example of this was in Israel, when a small ultra-Orthodox party did the same to both their Labor and Likud parties, and got a lot of what it wanted.

The key is that the vast majority of legislation is not controversial, and is supported by one of the big parties, and opposed by the other. The bloc in the middle doesn’t really care one way or the other about it, so collects IOUs from both parties by voting for or against it. Then when their agenda comes up for a vote, they call in the IOUs.

In doing so, they don’t even make political enemies, because they are selling to both sides, and both sides know it. If either side want it bad enough, they will pay.

If Paul were to do this in two or three elections, the odds of him getting elected to President would keep going up. Eventually, his bloc would be powerful enough to get the Republican nomination.


40 posted on 12/12/2008 5:33:22 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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