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The Obama Camp Tried to Delegitimize Natural Born Requirements Prior To Elections
timothybirdnow.com ^ | December 4, 2008 | Timothy Birdnow

Posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:07 PM PST by smokingfrog

Obama’s “Cafeteria Constitutionalists” started years ago to try to to delegitimize the “American born President” provision of the Constitution. As the conclusion of this article states, “Can you say President Soros?”

Obama And The Three D’s: Deny, Delay Destroy

Barack Obama has successfully merged Chicago with Clinton-era politics. With that, we now have the Three D’s rearing their ugly heads again. For those of you who were in elementary school when Bill Clinton was president, the three D’s stood for `deny, delay, destroy`.

In this case, with regards to the whole Barack Obama birth certificate stall, the `destroy` part is in regards to the U.S. Constitution, and it takes time (deny and delay) to do this.

With that, meet Sarah P. Herlihy.

The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the “stupidest provision“ in the Constitution, “undecidedly un-American,“ “blatantly discriminatory,“ and the “Constitution’s worst provision.“ Since Arnold Schwarzenegger’s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; conspiracytheory; herlihy; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; tinfoilhats
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To: smokingfrog

It seems clear Obama knows he’s not a natural born citizen, and has taken the constitutional law track that, in his position, most obfuscates the issue by trying to imply natural born status, via claiming to be a “native” citizen.

http://yalelawjournal.org/2008/03/03/citizenship.html : Jill Pryor at yale examines the ambiguities involved with citizenship and the “unresolved” issues of the relativist interpretation of the natural born requirement. By using “native citizen” it seems he hopes the natural born status will be implied.

It’s clear the founders didn’t want “disloyal foreigners acquiring positions of power” to “bring with them, not only attachments to other countries, but ideas of government so distinct from ours that in every point of view they are dangerous.”

from http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate :

“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America. “

Keywords are native citizen. It could be argued Obama took it upon himself (constitutional lawyer), by running for president, to re-interpret the constitution.

Ambiguities are brought about with -where- someone is born, rather than the real issue of -loyalty-. This is indicative of possible attempts to deceive.

If we follow the relativist interpretation to it’s logical conclusions, what would there to be to stop a Kim Jong-Il or Chavez could marry an american woman, have a child in a state, get the required papers then leave with the child for the next 20 some odd years, come back for the 14 required, and have the son or daughter be president?

At the moment, I don’t see any good reason to compromise, in any way, on this issue.


21 posted on 12/10/2008 3:24:47 AM PST by nominal
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To: arrogantsob
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22 posted on 12/10/2008 3:37:11 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: nominal

bookmark


23 posted on 12/10/2008 3:39:23 AM PST by Doug TX
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To: BIGLOOK; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Will Obama swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States in good faith?

Or will his oath of office be a reflection of his bad faith"

Thanks for your support of Just Move On. Now, Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger can run for US el presidente in 2112! They can run the pro Gay/Green Governator with the Presidente of Mexico for co el Presidentes of the 57 states.

With the voters in Mexico, South America, Canada, Europe, Iran and "new voters" in the Former USA, the Governator can be co presidente with the Mexican Presidente for life.

They will win by 200 million votes, and that settles that. No one will challenge either one including a lot of Freepers as they will fear riots if the constitution is considered. Just Move on to 2040.

24 posted on 12/10/2008 5:09:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not foriegn or domestic terrorists, or criminals?)
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To: smokingfrog
Is it possible that the script for this usurper's rude awakening was written back in 1933 with the adoption of the 20th Amendment with these words: "if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified ...".

This amendment anticipated a time when a candidate would have been elected but "failed to qualify" for office. And what are the odds that just such a person would march around for months flaunting his disqualification in front of all of us after the election using the very title "the President elect".

It's just surreal. It's like he is daring us to do something about it.

25 posted on 12/10/2008 5:14:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: smokingfrog

Pingeth I this Posteth.


26 posted on 12/10/2008 7:16:06 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Edmund Burke)
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To: freedumb2003

“Every FReeper should Bk this one!”

Absolutely.


27 posted on 12/10/2008 10:34:09 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Ronzo

“Yeah, one thing for sure....Obama may or may not be a natural born citizen, but he’s certainly a natural born liar....”

Only Obama and his cohorts know for sure. As for being a natural born liar? Obama has proved that to be true.


28 posted on 12/10/2008 10:35:35 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: nominal

Thank you for those links. Bookmarking them now.


29 posted on 12/10/2008 10:36:25 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: sneakers

bookmarked


30 posted on 12/10/2008 10:52:14 AM PST by sneakers
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To: Kevmo

I thought so but was not sure and have been put straight on this.


31 posted on 12/10/2008 4:08:53 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks.


32 posted on 12/10/2008 4:10:00 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: TheCipher

Apparently the dumbassed Senate doesn’t either.


33 posted on 12/10/2008 4:10:52 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Fred911

SOOOO stolen and will be used wantonly with NO attribution.

This is just a courtesy notice.


34 posted on 12/10/2008 7:35:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: nominal

It could be argued Obama took it upon himself (constitutional lawyer), by running for president, to re-interpret the constitution. Ambiguities are brought about with -where- someone is born, rather than the real issue of -loyalty-. This is indicative of possible attempts to deceive.... At the moment, I don’t see any good reason to compromise, in any way, on this issue.
***Fascinating perspective. I see no good reason to comprimise either.


35 posted on 12/10/2008 10:20:14 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Uncle Chip

...”It’s just surreal. It’s like he is daring us to do something about it. “

I was thinking along the same lines. There is no way this is an accident. These are people who plan years ahead, consider every possible problem, and have multiple contingency plans for each. They knew, and did it anyways.

The tactic now seems to be for them to ignore, dismiss, and ridicule the more than sufficient reasons for an investigation of the kenya/islam issue, obfuscate the dual/triple citizenship natural born citizen -automatic- disqualification, and hope the problem goes away, or at least dragged out in the courts to the point where it’s forgotten or nullified.

There is a strong possibility for civil war in either eventuality, sworn in or disqualified.

this is the latest from the We the People Foundation on the status of the lawsuits, and their future plans. video of their national press club conference:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6771521759788800576

I watched all ~2h30m of it, and I am at a loss for the moment. Options for recourse are few, to say the least.


36 posted on 12/11/2008 3:17:40 AM PST by nominal
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To: freedumb2003

I put it out there to be stolen......gets around much quicker. I did a Nancy Pelosi photoshop a few years back and it is all over google images.....love it!


37 posted on 12/11/2008 3:34:44 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: MHGinTN

Seen this thread?


38 posted on 12/12/2008 10:17:10 AM PST by papagall (Atta boys are great to collect, but one dagnabit wipes out dozens of them.)
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To: smokingfrog

The man is ignorant about what ‘ natural born’ signifys and the significance of the intent by the Founding Fathers. Their reasons then are just as valid today and even more important today when it is clear that Obama and his enablers have done so much to change what has been sacred over the years.


39 posted on 02/07/2011 10:38:48 PM PST by noinfringers2
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