Posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:07 PM PST by smokingfrog
It seems clear Obama knows he’s not a natural born citizen, and has taken the constitutional law track that, in his position, most obfuscates the issue by trying to imply natural born status, via claiming to be a “native” citizen.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2008/03/03/citizenship.html : Jill Pryor at yale examines the ambiguities involved with citizenship and the “unresolved” issues of the relativist interpretation of the natural born requirement. By using “native citizen” it seems he hopes the natural born status will be implied.
It’s clear the founders didn’t want “disloyal foreigners acquiring positions of power” to “bring with them, not only attachments to other countries, but ideas of government so distinct from ours that in every point of view they are dangerous.”
from http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate :
“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America. “
Keywords are native citizen. It could be argued Obama took it upon himself (constitutional lawyer), by running for president, to re-interpret the constitution.
Ambiguities are brought about with -where- someone is born, rather than the real issue of -loyalty-. This is indicative of possible attempts to deceive.
If we follow the relativist interpretation to it’s logical conclusions, what would there to be to stop a Kim Jong-Il or Chavez could marry an american woman, have a child in a state, get the required papers then leave with the child for the next 20 some odd years, come back for the 14 required, and have the son or daughter be president?
At the moment, I don’t see any good reason to compromise, in any way, on this issue.
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Or will his oath of office be a reflection of his bad faith"
Thanks for your support of Just Move On. Now, Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger can run for US el presidente in 2112! They can run the pro Gay/Green Governator with the Presidente of Mexico for co el Presidentes of the 57 states.
With the voters in Mexico, South America, Canada, Europe, Iran and "new voters" in the Former USA, the Governator can be co presidente with the Mexican Presidente for life.
They will win by 200 million votes, and that settles that. No one will challenge either one including a lot of Freepers as they will fear riots if the constitution is considered. Just Move on to 2040.
This amendment anticipated a time when a candidate would have been elected but "failed to qualify" for office. And what are the odds that just such a person would march around for months flaunting his disqualification in front of all of us after the election using the very title "the President elect".
It's just surreal. It's like he is daring us to do something about it.
Pingeth I this Posteth.
“Every FReeper should Bk this one!”
Absolutely.
“Yeah, one thing for sure....Obama may or may not be a natural born citizen, but he’s certainly a natural born liar....”
Only Obama and his cohorts know for sure. As for being a natural born liar? Obama has proved that to be true.
Thank you for those links. Bookmarking them now.
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I thought so but was not sure and have been put straight on this.
Thanks.
Apparently the dumbassed Senate doesn’t either.
SOOOO stolen and will be used wantonly with NO attribution.
This is just a courtesy notice.
It could be argued Obama took it upon himself (constitutional lawyer), by running for president, to re-interpret the constitution. Ambiguities are brought about with -where- someone is born, rather than the real issue of -loyalty-. This is indicative of possible attempts to deceive.... At the moment, I don’t see any good reason to compromise, in any way, on this issue.
***Fascinating perspective. I see no good reason to comprimise either.
...”It’s just surreal. It’s like he is daring us to do something about it. “
I was thinking along the same lines. There is no way this is an accident. These are people who plan years ahead, consider every possible problem, and have multiple contingency plans for each. They knew, and did it anyways.
The tactic now seems to be for them to ignore, dismiss, and ridicule the more than sufficient reasons for an investigation of the kenya/islam issue, obfuscate the dual/triple citizenship natural born citizen -automatic- disqualification, and hope the problem goes away, or at least dragged out in the courts to the point where it’s forgotten or nullified.
There is a strong possibility for civil war in either eventuality, sworn in or disqualified.
this is the latest from the We the People Foundation on the status of the lawsuits, and their future plans. video of their national press club conference:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6771521759788800576
I watched all ~2h30m of it, and I am at a loss for the moment. Options for recourse are few, to say the least.
I put it out there to be stolen......gets around much quicker. I did a Nancy Pelosi photoshop a few years back and it is all over google images.....love it!
Seen this thread?
The man is ignorant about what ‘ natural born’ signifys and the significance of the intent by the Founding Fathers. Their reasons then are just as valid today and even more important today when it is clear that Obama and his enablers have done so much to change what has been sacred over the years.
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