Posted on 12/07/2008 7:59:13 AM PST by Victory111
The most troubling of the troublesome questions is why Mr. Obama didn’t immediately release his vaulted, original birth certificate for examination. This act would have not only eliminated a potential stumbling block for his campaign, but it would have certified his eligibility for the office of President of the United States and saved the taxpayers the cost of judicial intervention. Instead, under the pretext of visiting an ailing grandmother in Hawaii just days before the 2008 Presidential Election, Mr. Obama had his vaulted, original birth certificate sealed by Hawaii’s governor, Linda Lingle (R).
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BO, the rest of America’s Certificate of Live Births are open to the public for viewing. Why do you conceal yours?
Why should we trust anything you do or say, Obama, if your simple documentation is hidden from the people. We have a Constitutional right to know the truth Obama. I understand why you think the Constitution is flawed Obama. Because maybe the Constitution interferes with your Marxist intentions of the changes you have in mind, Mr. YES WE CAN.
NO YOU CAN’T! Show us your papers or you will NEVER BE LEGITIMATE!
My question is where are the Tax filings, college records, and medical reports all prior presidents have made public?
Is this the new ‘Change’ the Great One has promised?
Where is the MSM’s great journalists on these issues?
Is Obama exempt from all questions and scrutiny? It must be great the have lapdogs like the MSM, this presidency is going to be a trip to the land of OZ or the Animal Farm.
Better yet, the Twilight Zone!
God help us all.
Very well written piece, will forward url to local newspaper.
If he's not legitimate and being the commander in chief, would/should the military carry out his orders since they are duty bound to carry out lawful orders only?
It depends on what military he gives orders to. Since he was a natural born Kenyan/Brit via his father, I think they should march to his orders.
He did spend his precious time in Kenya after getting elected to the US senate, so he has shown his steadfast allegiance to Kenya. They should take his orders.
As far as American military, no way.
Hi,
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here... no matter how much proof is provided in this case, I don’t think it would ever be enough to kill the debate completely.
The nature of a good conspiracy theory is that it includes the fabrication of the evidence disproving the theory, as part of the conspiracy itself.
Suppose you were Obama and you DID have a legitimate birth certificate proving without question that you were a natural born US citizen. Right now, would you release that documentation?
I’ll assume the answer is YES, because logic dictates that this would satisfy a reasonable citizen.
So, now the real question...
Could you kill off the conspiracy theory by doing so?
Be honest... the answer is NO. And that’s a big problem.
If Obama had provided the actual COLB to the media, the presentation of a duplicate or a scan would’ve been dismissed as a fake irrespective of whether it’s fake or not. Because we can’t trust the media and we don’t have the original.
If he was then to submit the original for independent verification then how can he convince us to trust the independent verification?
If the SCOTUS was to confirm its validity then how can we be sure that there hasn’t been a cover-up?
If the COLB was submitted to full open scrutiny, carbon dated, ink tested, stamp tested and every test known to man on a live national television show, with experts that I could personally believe in, then that would do it for me.
But, the most hardcore conspiracy theorists will still wonder if it’s a very elaborate forgery using legitimate stamps, legitimate paper and legitimate ink, which can fool the experts.
The more you examine it, the more futile any attempt by Obama to silence the debate on this issue gets. So, if you were in his shoes and you COULD produce a valid COLB, what exactly would be achieved by doing it?
Well at least Salvato corrected his error from the orginal Dec. 3 edition of this epistle to reflect that Gov. Lingle is a Republican and not a Democrat as he originally claimed. However I'd also like to see him back up his claim that Gov. Lingle had the record sealed. I don't think he can but if he could I'd like to see the proof.
Could you kill off the conspiracy theory by doing so?
LOL, the "real question," the real, burning question for you in all this, is about killing off a conspiracy theory?
And your anwer is "no?" We'd never have guessed. And, here we were, thinking the real question is about Barack Obama's eligibility for office.
Sigh ... I guess we should just throw in the towel now, since we can't kill off the conspiracy, lol.
No, the real question is, could Obama really have masterminded it all?
We only know about the COLB issue at all because people who operate outside the Washington machine took it upon themselves to wade through Obama's entire life story and see if they could find ANYTHING that would cast doubt on his suitability. More to the point, it appears that if Obama has indeed lied about his birth status, everyone Stateside who's EVER known the truth has stayed silent without being paid to stay silent. (There's no way on earth that he could've bought them all off; for starters he can't possibly know who knows the truth).
Apart from a couple of very distant foreign relatives who could simply be saying he was born in Africa because they gain local kudos for saying it, all we have to go on is a flimsy internet copy of an allegedly legitimate document as a "smoking gun". That's from people without the resources that the political elite, from the Clintons to the Palin camp, had access to. While the prospective Presidential candidates on all sides hunted for dirt on Obama, none of them touched the ONE thing that was staring everyone in the face, and could easily have been proved or disproved - his constitutional right to stand.
Here are three possible explanations of how this constitutional crisis might've evolved:
1. Obama announced his intention to run for office some 22 months ago, his legitimacy was already under question, but for the next 12 months everyone in the political establishment - in the Clinton camp, in the Republican camps, and in Washington - did nothing about it because they never thought he'd beat Clinton, let alone the Republican candidate. Obama eventually gets wind of it and rushes out an update to his website instead of taking the unprecedented step of FULLY disclosing his birth certificate. This feeds the flames of the conspiracy theories, but it's not enough to counterbalance the utter incompetence of the McCain campaign. Result: Obama wins, just as the question of his right to contest the election at all reaches its peak.
2. Obama announced his intention to run for office some 22 months ago, nobody expected him to defeat Clinton so he wasn't challenged by the Democrats, none of the Republican candidates' campaign teams picked up on it either, and that's how come his right to stand wasn't thought through, let alone formally challenged, until after he was formally recognised as the Democrat candidate. By which time, overturning 20 months' worth of campaigning on the basis of a check that should've been carried out on day one, would've thrown the country into a constitutional crisis. So, Washington decided it was too risky to do anything about it.
3. Obama was capable of devising a foolproof plan to nominate himself at a point when he didn't have a hundredth of the resources the Clintons had, accumulate half a billion dollars from small donations and foreign sponsors, pay off the media and every possible witness to the fact he wasn't a natural born American, steal the Democrat nomination from under Hillary's nose, wipe the floor with the Republican candidates in every head-to-head (almost as if the candidate was throwing the fight!), register millions of FTV and illegal immigrants on the understanding they'd vote for him, AND convince hundreds of thousands of lifelong Republicans that it was time to switch...
The first two options are more realistic. Obama probably succeeded because complacency, incompetence and malfeasance on the part of his opponents as well as the machinations of his allies, engineered the climate that allowed him to "win".
The third one is a doozy. If Obama is that smart and that lucky, then God help all Freepers, because he's got four whole years to figure out how to get most of us to vote for him next time.
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