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1 posted on 12/07/2008 7:59:13 AM PST by Victory111
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BO, the rest of America’s Certificate of Live Births are open to the public for viewing. Why do you conceal yours?
Why should we trust anything you do or say, Obama, if your simple documentation is hidden from the people. We have a Constitutional right to know the truth Obama. I understand why you think the Constitution is flawed Obama. Because maybe the Constitution interferes with your Marxist intentions of the changes you have in mind, Mr. YES WE CAN.

NO YOU CAN’T! Show us your papers or you will NEVER BE LEGITIMATE!


2 posted on 12/07/2008 8:05:46 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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My question is where are the Tax filings, college records, and medical reports all prior presidents have made public?
Is this the new ‘Change’ the Great One has promised?
Where is the MSM’s great journalists on these issues?
Is Obama exempt from all questions and scrutiny? It must be great the have lapdogs like the MSM, this presidency is going to be a trip to the land of OZ or the Animal Farm.
Better yet, the Twilight Zone!
God help us all.


3 posted on 12/07/2008 8:10:38 AM PST by jonathan-swift2000 (The Good news from Iraq the MSM won't publish.)
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Very well written piece, will forward url to local newspaper.


4 posted on 12/07/2008 9:26:56 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The USofA, Conservative, Traditional, Constitutional , , , now it's up to the SCOTUSofA.)
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To: Victory111

Hi,

I’m going to play devil’s advocate here... no matter how much proof is provided in this case, I don’t think it would ever be enough to kill the debate completely.

The nature of a good conspiracy theory is that it includes the fabrication of the evidence disproving the theory, as part of the conspiracy itself.

Suppose you were Obama and you DID have a legitimate birth certificate proving without question that you were a natural born US citizen. Right now, would you release that documentation?

I’ll assume the answer is YES, because logic dictates that this would satisfy a reasonable citizen.

So, now the real question...

Could you kill off the conspiracy theory by doing so?

Be honest... the answer is NO. And that’s a big problem.

If Obama had provided the actual COLB to the media, the presentation of a duplicate or a scan would’ve been dismissed as a fake irrespective of whether it’s fake or not. Because we can’t trust the media and we don’t have the original.

If he was then to submit the original for independent verification then how can he convince us to trust the independent verification?

If the SCOTUS was to confirm its validity then how can we be sure that there hasn’t been a cover-up?

If the COLB was submitted to full open scrutiny, carbon dated, ink tested, stamp tested and every test known to man on a live national television show, with experts that I could personally believe in, then that would do it for me.

But, the most hardcore conspiracy theorists will still wonder if it’s a very elaborate forgery using legitimate stamps, legitimate paper and legitimate ink, which can fool the experts.

The more you examine it, the more futile any attempt by Obama to silence the debate on this issue gets. So, if you were in his shoes and you COULD produce a valid COLB, what exactly would be achieved by doing it?


7 posted on 12/07/2008 4:45:17 PM PST by Don Stadt
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Mr. Obama had his vaulted, original birth certificate sealed by Hawaii’s governor, Linda Lingle (R).


Well at least Salvato corrected his error from the orginal Dec. 3 edition of this epistle to reflect that Gov. Lingle is a Republican and not a Democrat as he originally claimed. However I'd also like to see him back up his claim that Gov. Lingle had the record sealed. I don't think he can but if he could I'd like to see the proof.

8 posted on 12/07/2008 5:06:53 PM PST by deport
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