Posted on 12/07/2008 1:48:09 AM PST by malkee
The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, an unhinged demagogue on the political fringe who lost a senate election to the then unknown Obama by 42 points should be a warning in itself.
This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats' seditious claim that Bush "stole" the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq War, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became "Bush's War" rather than an American War with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause.
The Birth Certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)
No its him and his own bloggers are shredding his silly arguments.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/blog/Default.aspx
Michelle Malkins as well!
The U.S. Constitution is one heckuva a BIG technicality...
I pray to God continually for that answer.
So far, nothing.
I wish I could not clearly see exactly what is happening, but sadly, I can.
I’m truly sorry that I have no wise answers for you.
With God’s mercy, we will survive ‘that one’ and be here still, four or eight years from now.
[I hope]
“So what you are saying is, I can bring a copy of my birth announcement and use it as proof I am a citizen?”
Sure!
Give it a shot and let us know how you make out....;-D
I would have no constitutional objection if the rats sought to amend the constitution on the federal level to change the natural born citizen requirement. But once a provision is in the Constitution one has to look to the Constitution itself (not David Horowitz) to find out how to amend it.
So much for all of his “transparency” in government, more like do as I say not as I do.
It’s the little things that show you a persons character. Such as, I’ll take public financing if you do...sorry, changed my mind. Paying 100’s of thousand dollars to keep secret his school records, OMG, I now know that Sarah Palin shops at Victoria’s Secret! He treated his Grandmother’s death as a blip. He’s and obvious user of people, they guy has no friends, weird. The guy is a FREAK
Can’t you get a US passport even if you are not a “natural-born” citizen?
“Horowitz is absolutely correct despite the grumbling of a few self-annointed “patriots” here who assert a (fallacious) claim of defending our Constitution, a document many of them obviously have never read judging by their knowledge of it.”
Yeah? How does Justice Thomas fit in to that?
Is he a “Patriot” or just a loser who doesn’t understand the constitution?
I used to date a Serbian woman who lives in this country. She doesn’t have citizenship and she has a passport.
If anyone has evidence that he’s not an American citizen, bring it. Otherwise, there’s no reason to waste your time with the issue.
Exactly my point. Has anyone seen Nobama’s passport? His real birth certificate? What is he hiding and why? I think those are fair questions.
What does his being a citizen have to do with it?
“If a person believes he or she is eligible under the law as a non-citizen national of the United States and the person complies with the provisions of 8 USC 1452(b)(1) and (2), he/she may apply for a passport at any Passport Agency in the United States.. When applying, applicants must execute a Form DS-11 and show documentary proof of their non-citizen national status as well as their identity.”
Was she a national?
Yes, the latter. There have been countless laws created and passed that fly in the face of the Constitution and the enumerated powers provision. What I was saying is those who felt they were intending good either did or did not know the consequences their legislation would or has had post passage/enactment.
Many acts during Woodrow Wilson's tenure and subsequent New Dealers during the FDR admin are not within the enumerated powers of the Constitution. The effects of which are seen today and when analyzed are thought to be counterproductive to the intent of the Constitution istelf.
As far as David Horowitz, I think he has strong conservative views and I tend to agree more than I disagree with him. I was making a statement that those in general who adopt conservatism as a ideological change in their views can have a degree of pre conservative tainting. I was not necessarily indicating that was the case with Horowotiz other than to say it is more difficult for one who perhaps had opposing views at one time now to be fully embraced with the views that were at one time counter to present political ideology.
She’s a Serbian citizen working in this country as a college professor.
I don’t like to see David Horowitz in this camp. But, in any case, this is an issue that should not just go away. Will the court rule against an obama win? Of course not. But the democrats and other obama promoters need to be called out for what they’ve done - that is, for presenting, nominating, defending, and virutally forcing on the country an illegitimate candidate. (If it turns out that this is the case) At the very least they should have vetted him and they did not. Why? Because, apparently, the Consistution doesn’t matter if it gets in the way of the will of the democrat/liberal agenda. This is the issue. And if it were a republican who had won the election you can be the democrats would never let it rest.
I guess he's criticizing Obama for knocking out his first two opponents and getting where he is now on similar bases. I suppose that means he's calling 0bambi an unhinged political demagogue, probably for raking in $200+ million in foreign donations, teaching ACORN their mendacious voter fraud tactics, and being the prime mover and shaker behind the CRA, which has crushed the life out of the financial stabiltiy of the free world.
HF
I'm curious, Into the Vortex, if John Quincy Adams was born in London or even on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic, would he have been eligible to be POTUS?
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