Posted on 12/06/2008 5:15:13 PM PST by Smokeyblue
If this conferred foreign citizenship were not present at birth, it could not have an impact upon any current president or presidential aspirant, provided that the individual had no other questions regarding citizenship during his or her lifetime up to that point. It would be a spurious claim, anyway, with no basis in fact or in law.
...Yea, really. Glad you called. Let’s talk about the Constitution... We can start with Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11... Fact. Presidents, as commander in chief, have engaged the United States in wars without a declaration by Congress including the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the War in Iraq. Fact. The United States did not win the Korean War, the United States did not win the Vietnam War, and we are still at war in Iraq. Seems to me that the Constitution can be bent for political expediency when necessary. Wayne Abraham is a member of the College of Electors. Case reviewed. Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5... I did not vote for Barack H. Obama, nor did I vote for Sarah, upppp, or the other guy! Yea, the “Tin foil” bitter, republican, conspiracy theorists will continue to make this an issue, yer got me on “case closed” Amazing, aren’t I??? Hummm on back...
...I’m with yer, prism, just posted on #62 to dan...
Do you know WHO Philip J Berg, Esq. is as your first "RWCT"=(???,) who was the first to file suit???
You seems to be a pretty bitter person!!!
I agree. If we ignore the constitution on such a very important aspect of the rule of law than only anarchy remains. Not a pretty picture, and caused by people like this elector.
“Since the United States Supreme Court has not rendered an opinion regarding the validity of the “natural born” status of a U.S. citizen or otherwise defined this term, I am therefore at liberty to make my own determination as a Presidential Elector.”
This elector needs to do some homework before making idiotic statements like this. Here’s one just to help get him started...
Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964): “We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native-born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”
A little difference there don’t ya think. Also, the constitution says...”No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;...” Note that the word citizen is in there twice. This dufus is ignoring the fact that the one (natural born citizen) CAN’T be the same as the other.
He’s just trying to rationalize this away in his mind so he can vote for Obama with a clear conscience.
For the EC to cast their votes for 0bama because he’s already won the election is like saying, well, they’ve already broken in to Fort Knox, (or the jewlery store, or your neighbor’s house, etc, etc...). Why go after them now?
This alleged “Elector” is a dope.
I don’t understand why so many like yourself are such negative nellies.
Maybe it will go nowhere, but fighting against overwhelming odds is heroic, and the right thing to do.
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