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Supreme Court of CA has acted - Opportunity to file at SCOTUS as early as Monday
A Natural Born Citizen - Orly ^ | December 6, 2008 | Dr. Orly Taitz

Posted on 12/06/2008 10:29:30 AM PST by Deepest End

Saturday, December 6, 2008

Supreme court of CA acted expediently and gave me an opportunity to file in the Supreme court of the US as early as Monday.

I wanted to thank the Justices of the Supreme Court of California and Chief Justice Ronald M. George for acting so expediently.Within two days the Justices have reviewed the case and entered their disposition on it today, on Friday night, at 9:53 PM. They have denied on my pleadings, which gives me an opportunity to file immediately in the Supreme Court of the United States.

Supreme Court Justice assigned to our ninth circuit (includes CA) is an Honorable Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy.

I have attached a wikipedia article about Honorable Judge Kennedy.

Thank you again for all your support. Orly

(Excerpt) Read more at drorly.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; bc; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; choomgang; drorly; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; thekenyan
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To: Red_Devil 232

Been hearing your tagline a lot lately. ;^)


41 posted on 12/06/2008 12:30:19 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Cheerio
If I read you correctly you are saying following the Constitution (letter of the law) is only preferable when it doesn't destabilize a dumbed down population?

I doubt that anyone here believes that. But many of us are of the opinion that this will be the reasoning of the SCOTUS.

42 posted on 12/06/2008 12:31:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Deepest End

“...the burden to prove eligibility is not situation of having to prove a negative. I believe the burden is on Barack Hussein Barry Soetoro Dunham Obama to prove he IS eligible.”

That was ertainly true at the State primary level. However, the time for challenging nominations at the state level has expired. The Keyes suit is attractive because it steps in between the SOS and electors. Nonetheless, any court could conclude there is a statutory remedy and take no action.

In the absence of effective court action, there is no procedure, IMHO, except to challenge O during the Jan 8 joint session of Congress. See my About page.

Let me ask (in a hurry) was the case in this thread filed prior to Keyes suit?


43 posted on 12/06/2008 12:44:40 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: frog in a pot
"However, the time for challenging nominations at the state level has expired."

The electors have not voted yet, Barack Hussein Barry Soetoro Dunham Obama is not President Elect until that happens, so I would tend to disagree.

Let me ask (in a hurry) was the case in this thread filed prior to Keyes suit?

This case was filed after the Keyes case:

Today, December 3, 2008, Dr. Orly Taitz, DDS Esq filed a second lawsuit in the Supreme Court of California; Lightfoot v. Bowen, docket number S168690. This is a “Petition for Extraordinary Writ of Mandamus for Stay”.

44 posted on 12/06/2008 12:55:45 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End
Here are the Calif. electors:

(list has been hand-sorted, check the link at CA SoS Web site)

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/election_2008/pres-general/electors_november2008_v2.pdf

Elector List - 2008 Presidential General - November 4, 2008

Democratic Party Electors
Pledged To: Barack Obama

On or before October 1, 2008, the Democratic and Republican parties are required by law to file the name and address of their respective presidential electors with the Secretary of State (Elections Code § 7100, 7300). This same date is designated by the Secretary of State for any other qualified parties to file the name and address of their respective presidential electors (Elections Code § 7578, 7843). The other qualified parties nominating presidential candidates for the November 4, 2008 election are: American Independent, Green, Libertarian and Peace & Freedom.

1. Ian Robert Blue - CD 1, UKIAH, CA
2. Mark H Cibula - CD 2, IGO, CA
3. Richard Allen Hundrieser - CD 3, SACRAMENTO, CA
4. Lawrence Steven Du Bois - CD 4, LOOMIS, CA
5. Mark Friedman - CD 5, SACRAMENTO, CA
6. Mary W Hubert - CD 6, SAN RAFAEL, CA
7. Fred D Jackson - CD 7, RICHMOND, CA
8. LeRoy King - CD 8, SAN FRANCISCO, CA
9. Roberta C Brooks - CD 9, BERKELEY, CA
10. Audrey Gordon - CD 10, ORINDA, CA
11. Michael McNerney - CD 11, PLEASANTON, CA
12. Nancy Jean Parrish - CD 12, SAN FRANCISCO, CA
13. James Paul Farley - CD 13, HAYWARD, CA
14. John Freidenrich - CD 14, ATHERTON, CA
15. Jeremy Seiji Nishihara - CD 15, SAN JOSE, CA
16. Jaime A Alvarado - CD 16, SAN JOSE, CA
17. Vinz J Koller - CD 17, CARMEL BY THE SEA, CA
18. Gregory Ray Olzack - CD 18, ATWATER, CA
19. David A. Sanchez - CD 19, RANCHO MIRAGE, CA
20. Larry Sheingold - CD 20, SACRAMENTO, CA
21. Stephen Allen Smith - CD 21, FRESNO, CA
22. Mark A Macarro - CD 22, TEMECULA, CA
23. Nathan Eric Brostrom - CD 23, BERKELEY, CA
24. Robert "Bob" M Handy - CD 24, SANTA BARBARA, CA
25. Robert D. Conaway - CD 25, HINKLEY, CA
26. Greg Warner - CD 26, RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA
27. Lane Sherman - CD 27, NORTHRIDGE, CA
28. Ilene Haber - CD 28*, SHERMAN OAKS, CA
29. Kenneth Sulzer - CD 29, LOS ANGELES, CA
30. Sanford Weiner - CD 30, LOS ANGELES, CA
31. Ana Delgado Mascarenas - CD 31, LOS ANGELES, CA
32. Joe Perez - CD 32, SANTA MONICA, CA
33. Gwen Moore -CD 33, LOS ANGELES, CA
34. Anthony Rendon - CD 34, LOS ANGELES, CA
35. Karen D. Waters - CD 35, INGLEWOOD, CA
36. Kelley Schnaitter Willis - CD 36, VENICE, CA
37. Silissa Uriarte-Smith - CD 37, LONG BEACH, CA
38. Norma Judith Torres - CD 38, POMONA, CA
39. Alma Marquez - CD 39, SOUTH GATE, CA
40. Ray L Cordova - CD 40, GARDEN GROVE, CA
41. Patrick Kelly Kahler - 41, HIGHLAND, CA
42. Aaruni Kumar Thakur - CD 42, FULLERTON, CA
43. Joe Baca Jr. - CD 43, RIALTO, CA
44. Juadina Stallings - CD 44, CORONA, CA
45. Betty McMillion - CD 45, BEAUMONT, CA
46. William F. Gusta Ayer - CD 46, FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA
47. Gregory Howes Willenborg - CD 47, SANTA ANA, CA
48. James L. Yedor - CD 48, SANTA ANNA, CA
49. Bobby Gene Glaser - CD 49, SAN DIEGO, CA
50. Mary Elizabeth Keadle - CD 50, RANCHO SANTA FE, CA
51. Frank G. Salazar - CD 51, IMPERIAL, CA
52. Christine Raye Young - CD 52, OCEANSIDE, CA
53. Sid Voorakkara - CD 53, SAN DIEGO, CA
54. Aleita Huguenin - USS, RANCHO MURIETA, CA
55. Lou Paulson - USS, WALNUT CREEK, CA
*By law the names of the electors are required to be submitted by October 1, 2008. Since the publication of this Elector List, the Democratic Party has made a correction to the spelling of the name of Elector Ilene Huber. The correct spelling should be Ilene Haber.

6:18 PM 10/02/2008

45 posted on 12/06/2008 1:13:01 PM PST by thecodont
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To: hinckley buzzard
How can they avoid it? If they don't look at the subject, and Obama is not qualified by reason of birth, they are all complaisant in committing a crime.
46 posted on 12/06/2008 2:04:29 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: hinckley buzzard
no matter how valid the complaint, the US Supreme Court is NOT going to provoke a destabilizing constitutional crisis over Obama's citizenship status. They just aren't. Face it.

Man, you are wrong on so many counts.

First, taking a "valid" case (meaning: one that meets its regular and rigorous standard for granting review) is not "provoking" anything, much less "provoking a destabilizing constitutional crisis." In fact, quite the opposite. By doing its job in an orderly and determined way, despite the circumstances, the SCOTUS would be supporting constitutional stability.

Two, there is nothing about these cases or these questions that engender a "constitutional crisis." Sure, there are some scenarios where there might be various social crises that ensue, but a constitutional crisis? No. No matter what, this is America and we will follow our procedures for the peaceful transfer of power, whenever and under whatever circumstances should arise.

Third, while of course the Supreme Court is and must be mindful of the political real-world implications of its actions, I have no doubt that would never, in and of itself, keep them from taking a case they otherwise know they should take (according to their rules). For one thing, there are risks on both sides, in action and in inaction (where otherwise warranted).

The SCOTUS probably will not hear these cases, but if so it will be because they do not raise the type of claims they can and should hear.

47 posted on 12/06/2008 2:17:29 PM PST by fightinJAG (Natural born citizen, citizen, naturalized citizen: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2143728/p)
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To: Deepest End

Well then, regarding Donofrio’s case, there’s nothing more Obama can do to prove he’s natural born. It’s all down to the SCOTUS to determine what “natural born” means.

I would be amazed if they ruled in Donofrio’s favor. Whether or not you qualify for dual citizenship with another country is not a factor in determining if you’re “natural born”, especially if you were born in America and one of your parents is a natural born American citizen. Of all the arguments over Obama’s citizenship, this is perhaps the weakest one yet.


48 posted on 12/06/2008 2:33:56 PM PST by tyke
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To: Deepest End

TO ALL CONCERNED:

“Are you also saying that Keyes case has no standing?”

THE KEYES’ LAWSUIT (SEE BELOW: ‘PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE’)

NOTICE THAT PRECEDENT IS ESTABLISHED FOR REMOVING CANDIDATES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. (SEE # 78)

OBAMA — AND CONSPIRATORS (IF ANY) — MAY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME ( see # 76)

ON THE QUESTION OF ‘STANDING’ (see 71 & 72)

WHY A CERTIFIED COPY OR AN ORIGINAL VAULT CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH IS NECESSARY TO SHOW THAT SENATOR OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII — AS HE HAS ATTESTED — AND NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE (see 74 & 75)

THE KEYES’ LAWSUIT

PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/AlanKeyesSuit.pdf

ORLY TAITZ, Esq. (SBN 223433)

26302 La Paz
Mission Viejo Ca 92691
Telephone: (949) 683-5411
Facsimile: (949) 586-8110

THE LAW OFFICE OF GARY G. KREEP

GARY G. KREEP (SBN 066482)
932 “D” Street, Suite 2
Ramona, California 92065
Tel: (760) 787-9907
Fax: (760) 788-6414
Attorneys for Petitioners

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF SACRAMENTO

Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes; Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr.; and
Markham Robinson,
Petitioners,
v.
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen; Senator Barack
Hussein Obama; Senator Joe Biden; California Democratic
Party Electors: Aleita Huguenin, Lou Paulson, Ian Blue,
Mark Cibula, Richard Hundrieser, Lawrence DuBois, Mark
Friedman, Mary Hubert, Fred Jackson, LeRoy King, Roberta
Brooks, Audrey Gordon, Michael McNerney, Nancy Parrish,
James Farley, John Freidenrich, Jeremy Nishihara, Jaime
Alvarado, Vinz Koller, Gregory Olzack, David Sanchez, Larry
Sheingold, Stephen Smith, Mark Macarro, Nathan Brostrom,
Robert “Bob” Handy, Robert Conaway, Greg Warner, Lane
Sherman, Ilene Huber, Kenneth Sulzer, Sanford Weiner, Ana
Delgado Mascarenas, Joe Perez, Gwen Moore, Anthony
Rendon, Karen Waters, Kelley Willis, Silissa Uriarte-Smith,
Norma Torres, Alma Marquez, Ray Cordova, Patrick Kahler,
Aaruni Thakur, Joe Baca, Jr., Juadina Stallings, Betty
McMillion, William Ayer, Gregory Willenborg, James Yedor,
Bobby Glaser, Mary Keadle, Frank Salazar, Christine Young,
Sid Voorakkara, and DOES 1-100,

Respondents.

Case No.: 34-200880000096-CUWMGDS
PETITION FOR WRIT OF
MANDATE
Date:
Time:
Dept.:
Judge: Michael Kinny
Filed:
Trial:

AMBASSADOR DR. ALAN KEYES, a rNECESSARYSENATOResident of the State of Maryland, and DR. WILEY S.
DRAKE, SR., and MARKHAM ROBINSON, each a resident of the State of California, all Petitioners
herein, bring this litigation.

PETITIONERS allege:

I

INTRODUCTION

Parties

1. Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes, Petitioner herein, is the Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

2. Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr., Petitioner herein, is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party and is the Vice Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

3. Markham Robinson, Petitioner herein, is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party, Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, and Chairman of the American Independent Party;

4. Debra Bowen, Respondent herein, is the Secretary of State of the State of California(hereafter referred to as “SOS”);

5. Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Respondent herein, is the Presidential Candidate of the Democratic Party on the California State Ballot;

6. Senator Joe Biden, Respondent herein, is the Vice-Presidential Candidate of the Democratic Party on the California State Ballot;

7. Aleita Huguenin, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, in the State of California;

8. Lou Paulson, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, in the State of California;

21. James Farley, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 13th Congressional District;

22. John Freidenrich, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 14th Congressional District;

23. Jeremy Nishihara, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 15th Congressional District;

24. Jaime Alvarado, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 16th Congressional District;

25. Vinz Koller, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 17th Congressional District;

26. Gregory Olzack, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 18th Congressional District;

27. David Sanchez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee n the 19th Congressional District;

28. Larry Sheingold, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 20th Congressional District;

29. Stephen Smith, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 21st Congressional District;

30. Mark Macarro, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 22nd Congressional District;

31. Nathan Brostrom, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 23rd Congressional District;

32. Robert “Bob” Handy, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 24th Congressional District;

33. Robert Conaway, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 25th Congressional District;

34. Greg Warner, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 26th Congressional District;

35. Lane Sherman, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 27th Congressional District;

36. Ilene Huber, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 28th Congressional District;

37. Kenneth Sulzer, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 29th Congressional District;

38. Sanford Weiner, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 30th Congressional District;

39. Ana Delgado Mascarenas, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 31st Congressional District;

40. Joe Perez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 32nd Congressional District;

41. Gwen Moore, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 33rd Congressional District;

42. Anthony Rendon, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 34th Congressional District;

43. Karen Waters, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 35th Congressional District;

44. Kelley Willis, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 36th Congressional District;

45. Silissa Uriarte-Smith, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 37th Congressional District;

46. Norma Torres, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 38th Congressional District;

47. Alma Marquez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 39th Congressional District;

48. Ray Cordova, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 40th Congressional District;

49. Patrick Kahler, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 41st Congressional District;

50. Aaruni Thakur, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 42nd Congressional District;

51. Joe Baca, Jr., Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 43rd Congressional District;

52. Juadina Stallings, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 44th Congressional District;

53. Betty McMillion, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 45th Congressional District;

54. William Ayer, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 46th Congressional District;

55. Gregory Willenborg, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 47th Congressional District;

56. James Yedor, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-

Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 48th Congressional District;

PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE

57. Bobby Glaser, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 49th Congressional District;

58. Mary Keadle, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 50th Congressional District;

59. Frank Salazar, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 51st Congressional District;

60. Christine Young, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 52nd Congressional District;

61. Sid Voorakkara, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 53rd Congressional District.

Legal Basis

62. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states, in pertinent part, as follows:
“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

63. Senator Barack H. Obama is a candidate for the Office of the President of the United States. However, to assume such office, Senator Obama must meet the qualifications specified for the Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a “natural born” citizen. Senator Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is a “natural born” citizen. There are other legal challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President.

64. SOS is responsible for ensuring the validity of the State election process by, among other things, verifying the qualifications of the voters, approving the ballots and the candidates, supervising the counting of the ballots, and certifying the results. This certification of the vote by SOS, based upon which Electors received the highest number of votes in the state, is the method provided for in California law for ascertaining which Electors are appointed to vote for president (California Elections Code § 15505, 3 U.S.C. § 6). On December 1, or as soon as soon as the election results have been received from all counties in the state, SOS shall certify the names of the ascertained Electors to the Governor, and then transmit to each presidential Elector a certificate of election (California Elections Code § 15505). The Governor then issues and seals a Certificate of Ascertainment which is delivered to the Electors by December 15 (3 U.S.C. § 6), who then meet to sign the Certificate of Vote (Federal Election Code §192.006). The office of SOS is intended to be non-biased and to provide the critical sense of fairness and impartiality necessary for the people to have faith in the fundamental underpinnings of the democratic basis for our elections.

65. There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process. Heretofore, only a signed statement from the candidate attesting to his or her meeting those qualifications was requested and received by SOS, with no verification demanded. This practice represents a much lower standard than that demanded of one when requesting a California driver’s license. Since SOS has, as its core,the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of theUnited States of America is received by her. This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.

66.In the case of individuals seeking the Office of President of the United States, the United States Constitution provides for a system of Electors, wherein citizens of the respective states have a state controlled election in which Electors representing the interests of the respective candidates for President on the state ballot are elected to represent the interests of the respective state in the Electoral College. Thus, there is no federal ballot controlled by the federal government. There is a California State ballot where voters elect Electors who in turn represent the named candidate for office on the ballot. That is one more reason why SOS has responsibility for the certification of not just the counts of the ballots cast, but also,the propriety of the contents of the ballot. In case Senator Obama cannot present proper documentation verifying his citizenship,he cannot be elected President of the United States, and SOS has a duty to bar the casting of votes by California Electors in support of his candidacy.

67. To avert a constitutional crisis which would certainly accrue after the election through laborious legal challenges, this writ seeks to resolve such complaints. It was incumbent on the candidates to present the necessary documentation confirming his citizenship, but, to date, Senator Obama has failed to do so.

68. At this point, Senator Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his vault(original hospital) birth records and supporting hospital records. Senator Obama’s citizenship status has been, and is being, challenged in 17 different legal actions in various federal and state courts, which challenges cast doubt on the validity of the electoral process, regardless of outcome, if not resolved prior to the certification of the election by the Electors. SOS is specifically charged with certifying and guaranteeing the validity of official documents and overseeing the elections in California, such that the people’s confidence in the fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this regard, SOS
has not carried out that fundamental duty.

69. This writ requests a court order barring the SOS from both certifying to the Governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship in Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain. In addition, this writ requests a court order barring the California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship in Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

70. Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.

71. 3 United States Code (U.S.C.) Section 8 provides, “The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.” This federal statute confers upon each elector an affirmative duty to discover whether the candidate for President for which theelector is seeking election is a “natural born” citizen. Otherwise, the elector would not know if his vote was being cast in the “manner directed by the Constitution.”

72. Given this constitutionally mandated duty, PETITIONERS have standing to bring this Writ before this Court.

73.A growing number of questions have arisen in litigation in at least 10 statescontesting whether Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama are “natural born” citizens and, therefore,constitutionally eligible to be entrusted with the Office of President of the United States. In the litigation against Senator Obama, allegations have been made that his admitted dual citizenship in Indonesia,and
lack of evidence that he renounced the same, caused a loss of his United States Citizenship as a matter of law. Moreover,evidence released by the Obama campaign purporting to be a “Certification of Live Birth” on its face appears to be of questionable authenticity.One of the many problems with this evidence is that the border design differs from the border designs of other Certifications of Live Birth printed during the same time period. All these questions about both of the candidates are still unresolved.In the course of those lawsuits,some of which have been dismissed, it has been determined that there exists no designated official in the federal government, or the government of the states, directly charged with the responsibility of determining whether any Presidential candidate meets the qualifications of Article II of the Constitution of the United States. In most states,that responsibility is vested with the political parties, all of which have a conflict of interest in making any such determination, and none of which have been forthcoming with information or evidence verifying any candidate’s compliance with the eligibility requirements.

74. A press release was issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health by its Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Dr. Fukino said that she had “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” That statement failed to resolve any of the questions being raised by litigation and press accounts. Being “on record” could mean either that its contents are in the computer database of the department or there is an actual “vault” original.

75. Further, the report does not say whether the birth certificate in the “record” is a Certificate of Live Birth or a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. In Hawaii,a Certificate of Live Birth resulting from hospital documentation, including a signature of an attending physician, is different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. For births prior to 1972, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was the result of the uncorroborated testimony of one witness and was not generated by a hospital. Such a Certificate could be obtained up to one year from the date of the child’s birth. For that reason, its value as prima facie evidence is limited and could be overcome if any of the allegations of substantial evidence of birth outside Hawaii can be obtained. The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii.Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question,whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.

76. An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity. In addition,if Senator Obama is not a “natural born” citizen and not eligible for presidency, Senator Obama will be subject to the criminal Provisions of the California Elections Code,stating,“Any person who files or submit for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy knowing that it, or any part of it, has been made falsely is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both the fine and imprisonment” (California Elections Code § 18203). Further, Senator Obama, SOS,the Governor of the State of California, and all of the California Electors may be subject to the penal provisions of the California Elections Code which states, “Any person who commits fraud and any person who aids or abets fraud or attempts to aid or abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, or attempted to be cast, is guilty of felony, punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two or three years” (California Elections Code § 18500 ).

77. The Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides, “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or in the manner in which one who is to act shall be elected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.” Thus, if Senator Obama cannot take office due to his citizenship,
succession to the Presidency is set.

II

BACKGROUND OF THE CASE

78. The Office of the Secretary of State of California is the California agency responsible for certifying candidates for inclusion on the ballot. Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for
President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr.Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States. Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party listed Mr. Larry Holmes as an eligible candidate in the Presidential primary. When the
then SOS checked his eligibility, it was found that Mr. Holmes was similarly not eligible, and Mr. Holmes was removed from the ballot. Currently, we have a similar situation in that the Democratic Party has submitted the name of Senator Barack Obama as candidate for President.

79. However, there are a number of separate reasons that would make Senator Obama ineligible to serve as President of the United States. On August 21, 2008, Mr. Phillip J. Berg, former Deputy Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania, filed a legal action against Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee. With his action, and in the subsequent appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States, Mr. Berg provided documents to the effect that Senator Obama was born in what is now Kenya (the British East African Protectorate of Zanzibar at the time) and that his paternal grandmother was present at his birth. Senator Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii. According to
statements made by his half-sister, Maya Soetoro Ng, he was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Hawaii. According to his biography posted on Wikipedia, Senator Obama was born in Queens Hospital in Hawaii.However, he has never provided the original hospital birth certificate from 1961, with the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor in attendance. All that Senator Obama has posted on his website is a Registry of Live Birth (short version), obtained in 2007, that does not provide the name of the hospital or the doctor. Clearly, one human being cannot be born in three different places. Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.From August 21, 2008, for over two months,Senator Obama has refused to provide his original birthcertificate, even though, in his book, Dreams of My Father, page 26, he states,“I found the article folded between my birth certificate and old immunization records” which shows that he clearly has his birth certificate, or that he lied in his book.Particularly telling is the fact that not one single person has come forward, not a doctor, not a nurse, not a hospital administrator, nor anyone else, to state that he or she was present during this birth, except for Obama’s paternal grandmother, who affirmed that she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.” Additionally, when Mr. Berg served subpoenas on the hospitals mentioned above, Senator Obama refused to sign a consent form that would allow the hospitals to release any of his information. Instead, Senator Obama has hired three law firms to defend himself, and has challenged the action by Mr. Berg on a technicality, claiming that an ordinary citizen does not have standing to bring the suit. This matter is currently being reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court. The parties in this case have standing to bring this litigation, due to the fact that Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake, Sr., are candidates on the California ballot for President and Vice President of the United States, and Mr. Robinson is an Elector for the Keyes-Drake ticket, and Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, of Fenton, Michigan, which nominated Dr. Keyes for President. He is also a Chairman of the American Independent Party (California),which nominated Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake for President and Vice President, respectively. Based on the foregoing, it is imperative for SOS to be provided proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen.

80. If he was born in Hawaii, there are four(4)other obstacles to Senator Obama’s eligibility. In and about 1967, Senator Obama moved to Indonesia, took the last name of his stepfather,Soetoro, and went by the name Barry Soetoro. In original legal action filed by Mr. Berg, he presented Senator Obama’s school registration, showing him registered as Barry Soetoro, Citizenship-Indonesian, Religion Islam, signed by L. Soetoro. From 1945, Indonesia has not allowed dual citizenship and,therefore, Ms. Dunham-Obama-Soetoro, Senator Obama’s mother,had to relinquish her son’s U.S.citizenship in order to obtain Indonesian citizenship for him, which would make him ineligible to become a United States President. Additionally,the United States could not allow dual citizenship with Indonesia at that time, as Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, and it was prohibited by the Hague Convention of 1930, as interfering with the internal affairs of another sovereign Country.

81. In addition, upon return to the United States in and around 1971-1972, Senator Obama would have been required to go to the then current immigration procedures to regain his U.S. citizenship. There is no record of him ever doing that. Even if he had done so, he would be considered a naturalized citizen and not a “natural born” citizen.

82. Additionally, assuming Senator Obama was born in what is now Kenya, at the time of Senator Obama’s birth in 1961, (now) Kenya was the British Protectorate of Zanzibar and Senator Obama was automatically accorded a form of British citizenship under Section 32(1) of the British Nationality
Act of 1948, effective date January 28, 1949, based on his father’s citizenship.

83. Finally, in 1981, Senator Obama traveled to Pakistan, when there was a ban for U.S. citizens to travel to Pakistan. The only logical possibility for him to do so was by using one of his other passports: Indonesian, Kenyan, or British.

84. Based on all of the above, it is the duty of the SOS to obtain proper documentation of Senator Obama’s citizenship to confirm his eligibility for the office of the President of the United States.

85. On October 25, 2008, SOS was contacted, via e-mail, by Orly Taitz, Esq., discussing the issues mentioned above. SOS has acknowledged receipt of said e-mail and sent a response. As of that time, SOS was on notice and had a duty to act. Ms. Taitz had a subsequent conversation with the election analyst of SOS Office, Ms. Philly Crosby. Ms. Taitz requested an administrative hearing on the matter in
question. Ms. Crosby stated that she would discuss the matter with Ms. Bowen and SOS’ General Counsel, Ms. Pam Giarizzo, and that Ms. Giarizzo would telephone Ms. Taitz to discuss the issue. Ms. Taitz followed this conversation with a second e-mail, confirming all the details of the conversation. As yet, SOS has taken no steps to request the necessary documents from Senator Obama. It appears that Ms.
Bowen is intending to certify Senator Obama, and to certify his Electors, and not protect the people of the State of California by enforcing its laws. As a result of SOS declining to act pursuant to the above described legal obligations, the only remedy is to request relief from the Superior Court of California, and seek injunctive relief available to bar SOS from certifying the California Electoral votes until such documentary proof that Senator Obama’s United States citizenship is produced.

III

EFFECT OR FAILURE TO GRANT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

86. Failing to officially and publically validate the status of the citizenship claims of Senator Obama will cast a pall of doubt on the election process and taint the election results themselves. A proper inquiry into Senator Obama’s eligibility will not constitute a hardship on Senator Obama, and it will not deny his voters the right to vote for him, since this very right is dependent on his eligibility for the office as a “natural born” citizen. If Senator Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and, therefore, not eligible to serve as President, no hardship on him or any other Respondent can be shown. On the contrary, lack of the relief that is prayed for will constitute an insurmountable hardship on the voters of the State of California.

87. Failure to grant the relief sought would allow a potentially corrupted, fraudulent,nomination and election process to continue. If indeed, Senator Obama knew that he is not eligible for the presidency, he would be subject to California Election Code Section 18203, which states,“Any person who files or submits for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy that it or any part of it has been made falsely is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both fine and imprisonment”. Additionally, he would be subject to California Elections Code Section 18500 that states,“Any person who commits fraud and any person who aids or abets fraud or attempts to aid or abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, or attempted to be cast, is guilty of a felony,punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two or three years”. Clearly it is imperative to vet Senator Obama’s eligibility for presidency and resolve this issue prior to the certification of the election results by the electors.

88. Failure to grant the relief sought, demanding that SOS be ordered to verify the constitutionally required qualifications of Senator Obama not only allows, but promotes, an overwhelming degree of disrespect for our Constitution and for our electoral process, and creates such a lack of confidence of voters in the primary and electoral process itself, that it would confirm a common
belief that no politician has to obey the laws of this Country, respect our election process, or follow the
United States Constitution.

89. Petitioners Keyes and Drake will be irreparably harmed by being unable to compete in a fair and unbiased election. Petitioner Robinson will be harmed in that he will not be able to perform his duties as an Elector in voting for the candidate that is eligible to become the President of the United States under the law. It is incumbent on SOS to enforce the eligibility requirements.

PRAYER

WHEREFORE, Petitioners respectfully prays:

90. That the court issue a peremptory writ in the first instance barring Respondent Secretary of State of California, Ms. Bowen, from both certifying to the Governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain. In addition, this writ requests that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Respondent California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

91. For Petitioners’ attorney’s fees.

92. For such costs of this proceeding and fees as are applicable by law; and such further relief as the Court deems just and proper. Respectfully submitted on November 12, 2008

SIGNATURE VIA FAX_______

Gary G. Kreep, Esq.

Attorney for Petitioners

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TO ALL CONCERNED:

THE KEYES’ LAWSUIT (SEE BELOW: ‘PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE’)

NOTICE THAT PRECEDENT IS ESTABLISHED FOR REMOVING CANDIDATES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. (SEE # 78)

OBAMA — AND CONSPIRATORS (IF ANY) — MAY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME ( see # 76)

ON THE QUESTION OF ‘STANDING’ (see 71 & 72)

WHY A CERTIFIED COPY OR AN ORIGINAL VAULT CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH IS NECESSARY TO SHOW THAT SENATOR OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII — AS HE HAS ATTESTED — AND NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE (see 74 & 75)

THE KEYES’ LAWSUIT

PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/AlanKeyesSuit.pdf

ORLY TAITZ, Esq. (SBN 223433)

26302 La Paz
Mission Viejo Ca 92691
Telephone: (949) 683-5411
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THE LAW OFFICE OF GARY G. KREEP

GARY G. KREEP (SBN 066482)
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Ramona, California 92065
Tel: (760) 787-9907
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Attorneys for Petitioners

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF SACRAMENTO

Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes; Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr.; and
Markham Robinson,
Petitioners,
v.
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen; Senator Barack
Hussein Obama; Senator Joe Biden; California Democratic
Party Electors: Aleita Huguenin, Lou Paulson, Ian Blue,
Mark Cibula, Richard Hundrieser, Lawrence DuBois, Mark
Friedman, Mary Hubert, Fred Jackson, LeRoy King, Roberta
Brooks, Audrey Gordon, Michael McNerney, Nancy Parrish,
James Farley, John Freidenrich, Jeremy Nishihara, Jaime
Alvarado, Vinz Koller, Gregory Olzack, David Sanchez, Larry
Sheingold, Stephen Smith, Mark Macarro, Nathan Brostrom,
Robert “Bob” Handy, Robert Conaway, Greg Warner, Lane
Sherman, Ilene Huber, Kenneth Sulzer, Sanford Weiner, Ana
Delgado Mascarenas, Joe Perez, Gwen Moore, Anthony
Rendon, Karen Waters, Kelley Willis, Silissa Uriarte-Smith,
Norma Torres, Alma Marquez, Ray Cordova, Patrick Kahler,
Aaruni Thakur, Joe Baca, Jr., Juadina Stallings, Betty
McMillion, William Ayer, Gregory Willenborg, James Yedor,
Bobby Glaser, Mary Keadle, Frank Salazar, Christine Young,
Sid Voorakkara, and DOES 1-100,

Respondents.

Case No.: 34-200880000096-CUWMGDS
PETITION FOR WRIT OF
MANDATE
Date:
Time:
Dept.:
Judge: Michael Kinny
Filed:
Trial:

AMBASSADOR DR. ALAN KEYES, a rNECESSARYSENATOResident of the State of Maryland, and DR. WILEY S.
DRAKE, SR., and MARKHAM ROBINSON, each a resident of the State of California, all Petitioners
herein, bring this litigation.

PETITIONERS allege:

I

INTRODUCTION

Parties

1. Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes, Petitioner herein, is the Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

2. Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr., Petitioner herein, is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party and is the Vice Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

3. Markham Robinson, Petitioner herein, is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party, Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, and Chairman of the American Independent Party;

4. Debra Bowen, Respondent herein, is the Secretary of State of the State of California(hereafter referred to as “SOS”);

5. Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Respondent herein, is the Presidential Candidate of the Democratic Party on the California State Ballot;

6. Senator Joe Biden, Respondent herein, is the Vice-Presidential Candidate of the Democratic Party on the California State Ballot;

7. Aleita Huguenin, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, in the State of California;

8. Lou Paulson, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, in the State of California;

21. James Farley, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 13th Congressional District;

22. John Freidenrich, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 14th Congressional District;

23. Jeremy Nishihara, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 15th Congressional District;

24. Jaime Alvarado, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 16th Congressional District;

25. Vinz Koller, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 17th Congressional District;

26. Gregory Olzack, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 18th Congressional District;

27. David Sanchez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee n the 19th Congressional District;

28. Larry Sheingold, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 20th Congressional District;

29. Stephen Smith, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 21st Congressional District;

30. Mark Macarro, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 22nd Congressional District;

31. Nathan Brostrom, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 23rd Congressional District;

32. Robert “Bob” Handy, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 24th Congressional District;

33. Robert Conaway, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 25th Congressional District;

34. Greg Warner, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 26th Congressional District;

35. Lane Sherman, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 27th Congressional District;

36. Ilene Huber, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 28th Congressional District;

37. Kenneth Sulzer, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 29th Congressional District;

38. Sanford Weiner, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 30th Congressional District;

39. Ana Delgado Mascarenas, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 31st Congressional District;

40. Joe Perez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 32nd Congressional District;

41. Gwen Moore, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 33rd Congressional District;

42. Anthony Rendon, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 34th Congressional District;

43. Karen Waters, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 35th Congressional District;

44. Kelley Willis, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 36th Congressional District;

45. Silissa Uriarte-Smith, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 37th Congressional District;

46. Norma Torres, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 38th Congressional District;

47. Alma Marquez, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 39th Congressional District;

48. Ray Cordova, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 40th Congressional District;

49. Patrick Kahler, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 41st Congressional District;

50. Aaruni Thakur, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 42nd Congressional District;

51. Joe Baca, Jr., Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 43rd Congressional District;

52. Juadina Stallings, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 44th Congressional District;

53. Betty McMillion, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 45th Congressional District;

54. William Ayer, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 46th Congressional District;

55. Gregory Willenborg, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 47th Congressional District;

56. James Yedor, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-

Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 48th Congressional District;

PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDATE

57. Bobby Glaser, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 49th Congressional District;

58. Mary Keadle, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 50th Congressional District;

59. Frank Salazar, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 51st Congressional District;

60. Christine Young, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 52nd Congressional District;

61. Sid Voorakkara, Respondent herein, is an Elector for the 2008 Presidential and Vice-Presidential Election, designated by the Democratic Party nominee in the 53rd Congressional District.

Legal Basis

62. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states, in pertinent part, as follows:
“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

63. Senator Barack H. Obama is a candidate for the Office of the President of the United States. However, to assume such office, Senator Obama must meet the qualifications specified for the Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a “natural born” citizen. Senator Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is a “natural born” citizen. There are other legal challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President.

64. SOS is responsible for ensuring the validity of the State election process by, among other things, verifying the qualifications of the voters, approving the ballots and the candidates, supervising the counting of the ballots, and certifying the results. This certification of the vote by SOS, based upon which Electors received the highest number of votes in the state, is the method provided for in California law for ascertaining which Electors are appointed to vote for president (California Elections Code § 15505, 3 U.S.C. § 6). On December 1, or as soon as soon as the election results have been received from all counties in the state, SOS shall certify the names of the ascertained Electors to the Governor, and then transmit to each presidential Elector a certificate of election (California Elections Code § 15505). The Governor then issues and seals a Certificate of Ascertainment which is delivered to the Electors by December 15 (3 U.S.C. § 6), who then meet to sign the Certificate of Vote (Federal Election Code §192.006). The office of SOS is intended to be non-biased and to provide the critical sense of fairness and impartiality necessary for the people to have faith in the fundamental underpinnings of the democratic basis for our elections.

65. There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process. Heretofore, only a signed statement from the candidate attesting to his or her meeting those qualifications was requested and received by SOS, with no verification demanded. This practice represents a much lower standard than that demanded of one when requesting a California driver’s license. Since SOS has, as its core,the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of theUnited States of America is received by her. This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.

66.In the case of individuals seeking the Office of President of the United States, the United States Constitution provides for a system of Electors, wherein citizens of the respective states have a state controlled election in which Electors representing the interests of the respective candidates for President on the state ballot are elected to represent the interests of the respective state in the Electoral College. Thus, there is no federal ballot controlled by the federal government. There is a California State ballot where voters elect Electors who in turn represent the named candidate for office on the ballot. That is one more reason why SOS has responsibility for the certification of not just the counts of the ballots cast, but also,the propriety of the contents of the ballot. In case Senator Obama cannot present proper documentation verifying his citizenship,he cannot be elected President of the United States, and SOS has a duty to bar the casting of votes by California Electors in support of his candidacy.

67. To avert a constitutional crisis which would certainly accrue after the election through laborious legal challenges, this writ seeks to resolve such complaints. It was incumbent on the candidates to present the necessary documentation confirming his citizenship, but, to date, Senator Obama has failed to do so.

68. At this point, Senator Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his vault(original hospital) birth records and supporting hospital records. Senator Obama’s citizenship status has been, and is being, challenged in 17 different legal actions in various federal and state courts, which challenges cast doubt on the validity of the electoral process, regardless of outcome, if not resolved prior to the certification of the election by the Electors. SOS is specifically charged with certifying and guaranteeing the validity of official documents and overseeing the elections in California, such that the people’s confidence in the fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this regard, SOS
has not carried out that fundamental duty.

69. This writ requests a court order barring the SOS from both certifying to the Governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship in Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain. In addition, this writ requests a court order barring the California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship in Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

70. Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.

71. 3 United States Code (U.S.C.) Section 8 provides, “The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.” This federal statute confers upon each elector an affirmative duty to discover whether the candidate for President for which theelector is seeking election is a “natural born” citizen. Otherwise, the elector would not know if his vote was being cast in the “manner directed by the Constitution.”

72. Given this constitutionally mandated duty, PETITIONERS have standing to bring this Writ before this Court.

73.A growing number of questions have arisen in litigation in at least 10 statescontesting whether Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama are “natural born” citizens and, therefore,constitutionally eligible to be entrusted with the Office of President of the United States. In the litigation against Senator Obama, allegations have been made that his admitted dual citizenship in Indonesia,and
lack of evidence that he renounced the same, caused a loss of his United States Citizenship as a matter of law. Moreover,evidence released by the Obama campaign purporting to be a “Certification of Live Birth” on its face appears to be of questionable authenticity.One of the many problems with this evidence is that the border design differs from the border designs of other Certifications of Live Birth printed during the same time period. All these questions about both of the candidates are still unresolved.In the course of those lawsuits,some of which have been dismissed, it has been determined that there exists no designated official in the federal government, or the government of the states, directly charged with the responsibility of determining whether any Presidential candidate meets the qualifications of Article II of the Constitution of the United States. In most states,that responsibility is vested with the political parties, all of which have a conflict of interest in making any such determination, and none of which have been forthcoming with information or evidence verifying any candidate’s compliance with the eligibility requirements.

74. A press release was issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health by its Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Dr. Fukino said that she had “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” That statement failed to resolve any of the questions being raised by litigation and press accounts. Being “on record” could mean either that its contents are in the computer database of the department or there is an actual “vault” original.

75. Further, the report does not say whether the birth certificate in the “record” is a Certificate of Live Birth or a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. In Hawaii,a Certificate of Live Birth resulting from hospital documentation, including a signature of an attending physician, is different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. For births prior to 1972, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was the result of the uncorroborated testimony of one witness and was not generated by a hospital. Such a Certificate could be obtained up to one year from the date of the child’s birth. For that reason, its value as prima facie evidence is limited and could be overcome if any of the allegations of substantial evidence of birth outside Hawaii can be obtained. The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii.Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question,whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.

76. An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity. In addition,if Senator Obama is not a “natural born” citizen and not eligible for presidency, Senator Obama will be subject to the criminal Provisions of the California Elections Code,stating,“Any person who files or submit for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy knowing that it, or any part of it, has been made falsely is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both the fine and imprisonment” (California Elections Code § 18203). Further, Senator Obama, SOS,the Governor of the State of California, and all of the California Electors may be subject to the penal provisions of the California Elections Code which states, “Any person who commits fraud and any person who aids or abets fraud or attempts to aid or abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, or attempted to be cast, is guilty of felony, punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two or three years” (California Elections Code § 18500 ).

77. The Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides, “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or in the manner in which one who is to act shall be elected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.” Thus, if Senator Obama cannot take office due to his citizenship,
succession to the Presidency is set.

II

BACKGROUND OF THE CASE

78. The Office of the Secretary of State of California is the California agency responsible for certifying candidates for inclusion on the ballot. Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for
President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr.Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States. Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party listed Mr. Larry Holmes as an eligible candidate in the Presidential primary. When the
then SOS checked his eligibility, it was found that Mr. Holmes was similarly not eligible, and Mr. Holmes was removed from the ballot. Currently, we have a similar situation in that the Democratic Party has submitted the name of Senator Barack Obama as candidate for President.

79. However, there are a number of separate reasons that would make Senator Obama ineligible to serve as President of the United States. On August 21, 2008, Mr. Phillip J. Berg, former Deputy Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania, filed a legal action against Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee. With his action, and in the subsequent appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States, Mr. Berg provided documents to the effect that Senator Obama was born in what is now Kenya (the British East African Protectorate of Zanzibar at the time) and that his paternal grandmother was present at his birth. Senator Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii. According to
statements made by his half-sister, Maya Soetoro Ng, he was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Hawaii. According to his biography posted on Wikipedia, Senator Obama was born in Queens Hospital in Hawaii.However, he has never provided the original hospital birth certificate from 1961, with the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor in attendance. All that Senator Obama has posted on his website is a Registry of Live Birth (short version), obtained in 2007, that does not provide the name of the hospital or the doctor. Clearly, one human being cannot be born in three different places. Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.From August 21, 2008, for over two months,Senator Obama has refused to provide his original birthcertificate, even though, in his book, Dreams of My Father, page 26, he states,“I found the article folded between my birth certificate and old immunization records” which shows that he clearly has his birth certificate, or that he lied in his book.Particularly telling is the fact that not one single person has come forward, not a doctor, not a nurse, not a hospital administrator, nor anyone else, to state that he or she was present during this birth, except for Obama’s paternal grandmother, who affirmed that she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.” Additionally, when Mr. Berg served subpoenas on the hospitals mentioned above, Senator Obama refused to sign a consent form that would allow the hospitals to release any of his information. Instead, Senator Obama has hired three law firms to defend himself, and has challenged the action by Mr. Berg on a technicality, claiming that an ordinary citizen does not have standing to bring the suit. This matter is currently being reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court. The parties in this case have standing to bring this litigation, due to the fact that Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake, Sr., are candidates on the California ballot for President and Vice President of the United States, and Mr. Robinson is an Elector for the Keyes-Drake ticket, and Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, of Fenton, Michigan, which nominated Dr. Keyes for President. He is also a Chairman of the American Independent Party (California),which nominated Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake for President and Vice President, respectively. Based on the foregoing, it is imperative for SOS to be provided proof that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen.

80. If he was born in Hawaii, there are four(4)other obstacles to Senator Obama’s eligibility. In and about 1967, Senator Obama moved to Indonesia, took the last name of his stepfather,Soetoro, and went by the name Barry Soetoro. In original legal action filed by Mr. Berg, he presented Senator Obama’s school registration, showing him registered as Barry Soetoro, Citizenship-Indonesian, Religion Islam, signed by L. Soetoro. From 1945, Indonesia has not allowed dual citizenship and,therefore, Ms. Dunham-Obama-Soetoro, Senator Obama’s mother,had to relinquish her son’s U.S.citizenship in order to obtain Indonesian citizenship for him, which would make him ineligible to become a United States President. Additionally,the United States could not allow dual citizenship with Indonesia at that time, as Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, and it was prohibited by the Hague Convention of 1930, as interfering with the internal affairs of another sovereign Country.

81. In addition, upon return to the United States in and around 1971-1972, Senator Obama would have been required to go to the then current immigration procedures to regain his U.S. citizenship. There is no record of him ever doing that. Even if he had done so, he would be considered a naturalized citizen and not a “natural born” citizen.

82. Additionally, assuming Senator Obama was born in what is now Kenya, at the time of Senator Obama’s birth in 1961, (now) Kenya was the British Protectorate of Zanzibar and Senator Obama was automatically accorded a form of British citizenship under Section 32(1) of the British Nationality
Act of 1948, effective date January 28, 1949, based on his father’s citizenship.

83. Finally, in 1981, Senator Obama traveled to Pakistan, when there was a ban for U.S. citizens to travel to Pakistan. The only logical possibility for him to do so was by using one of his other passports: Indonesian, Kenyan, or British.

84. Based on all of the above, it is the duty of the SOS to obtain proper documentation of Senator Obama’s citizenship to confirm his eligibility for the office of the President of the United States.

85. On October 25, 2008, SOS was contacted, via e-mail, by Orly Taitz, Esq., discussing the issues mentioned above. SOS has acknowledged receipt of said e-mail and sent a response. As of that time, SOS was on notice and had a duty to act. Ms. Taitz had a subsequent conversation with the election analyst of SOS Office, Ms. Philly Crosby. Ms. Taitz requested an administrative hearing on the matter in
question. Ms. Crosby stated that she would discuss the matter with Ms. Bowen and SOS’ General Counsel, Ms. Pam Giarizzo, and that Ms. Giarizzo would telephone Ms. Taitz to discuss the issue. Ms. Taitz followed this conversation with a second e-mail, confirming all the details of the conversation. As yet, SOS has taken no steps to request the necessary documents from Senator Obama. It appears that Ms.
Bowen is intending to certify Senator Obama, and to certify his Electors, and not protect the people of the State of California by enforcing its laws. As a result of SOS declining to act pursuant to the above described legal obligations, the only remedy is to request relief from the Superior Court of California, and seek injunctive relief available to bar SOS from certifying the California Electoral votes until such documentary proof that Senator Obama’s United States citizenship is produced.

III

EFFECT OR FAILURE TO GRANT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

86. Failing to officially and publically validate the status of the citizenship claims of Senator Obama will cast a pall of doubt on the election process and taint the election results themselves. A proper inquiry into Senator Obama’s eligibility will not constitute a hardship on Senator Obama, and it will not deny his voters the right to vote for him, since this very right is dependent on his eligibility for the office as a “natural born” citizen. If Senator Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and, therefore, not eligible to serve as President, no hardship on him or any other Respondent can be shown. On the contrary, lack of the relief that is prayed for will constitute an insurmountable hardship on the voters of the State of California.

87. Failure to grant the relief sought would allow a potentially corrupted, fraudulent,nomination and election process to continue. If indeed, Senator Obama knew that he is not eligible for the presidency, he would be subject to California Election Code Section 18203, which states,“Any person who files or submits for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy that it or any part of it has been made falsely is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both fine and imprisonment”. Additionally, he would be subject to California Elections Code Section 18500 that states,“Any person who commits fraud and any person who aids or abets fraud or attempts to aid or abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, or attempted to be cast, is guilty of a felony,punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two or three years”. Clearly it is imperative to vet Senator Obama’s eligibility for presidency and resolve this issue prior to the certification of the election results by the electors.

88. Failure to grant the relief sought, demanding that SOS be ordered to verify the constitutionally required qualifications of Senator Obama not only allows, but promotes, an overwhelming degree of disrespect for our Constitution and for our electoral process, and creates such a lack of confidence of voters in the primary and electoral process itself, that it would confirm a common
belief that no politician has to obey the laws of this Country, respect our election process, or follow the
United States Constitution.

89. Petitioners Keyes and Drake will be irreparably harmed by being unable to compete in a fair and unbiased election. Petitioner Robinson will be harmed in that he will not be able to perform his duties as an Elector in voting for the candidate that is eligible to become the President of the United States under the law. It is incumbent on SOS to enforce the eligibility requirements.

PRAYER

WHEREFORE, Petitioners respectfully prays:

90. That the court issue a peremptory writ in the first instance barring Respondent Secretary of State of California, Ms. Bowen, from both certifying to the Governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain. In addition, this writ requests that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Respondent California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

91. For Petitioners’ attorney’s fees.

92. For such costs of this proceeding and fees as are applicable by law; and such further relief as the Court deems just and proper. Respectfully submitted on November 12, 2008

SIGNATURE VIA FAX_______

Gary G. Kreep, Esq.

Attorney for Petitioners

STE=Q


50 posted on 12/06/2008 2:50:09 PM PST by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Obot alert. Face it they may.


51 posted on 12/06/2008 3:02:44 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Deepest End

I think you are right. Leo told them to get one into the CA Supreme Court ASAP. I think the Keyes case is still in the CA Courts and they are still serving electors in that lawsuit.


52 posted on 12/06/2008 3:04:58 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: tyke

The stock market would rally if the fraud is removed. Having confusion and Constitutional crisis is preferable to having a marxist who is an Indonesia citizen and has provided no proof that he is a naturalized citizen or even a citizen.

The positive for these lawsuits is teh public is sending a message that we will not be jerked around abnd defrauded by the DNC and to a lesser extent the RNC.

This is as much about the citizens taking back the power from the politicians and MSM as it is about the Constitution and kicking an illeligible fraud to the curb.


53 posted on 12/06/2008 3:10:08 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

In the longer term the movement of the stock market would depend on who ended up as president in place of Obama, but if you think the stock market will immediately start to rise again if there’s suddenly a power vacuum at the very top of the government, well, I want some of what you’re smoking.

Unless a transition was worked out behind the scenes before Obama’s ineligibility was announced, then there absolutely would be turmoil for at least a few days, and possibly a few weeks until it was all sorted out. The markets would settle down eventually, but given how jittery they are already because of the recession and financial crisis, the last thing they want is to have more uncertainty piled into the mix.


54 posted on 12/06/2008 3:26:42 PM PST by tyke
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To: Frantzie

You think there’s a chance SCOTUS might delay and collect to consider all three cases together?


55 posted on 12/06/2008 3:35:34 PM PST by Blu By U
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To: tyke
Well then, regarding Donofrio’s case, there’s nothing more Obama can do to prove he’s natural born. It’s all down to the SCOTUS to determine what “natural born” means.

I would basically agree with that.

I would be amazed if they ruled in Donofrio’s favor. Whether or not you qualify for dual citizenship with another country is not a factor in determining if you’re “natural born”, especially if you were born in America and one of your parents is a natural born American citizen. Of all the arguments over Obama’s citizenship, this is perhaps the weakest one yet.

This statement is entirely incorrect.

Donofrio's case is based on Obama being subject to the governing laws of Great Britain at the time of his birth, as is confirmed on Obama's own website. It has nothing to do with "dual citizenship". Donofrio's position is that you either are - or are not - a natural born citizen. You cannot change that after the fact.

You're entitled to your opinion (as we all are) but you should research his case before you posit an argument against it, because you don't understand what it is based on.

There is a lot of information you can find if you just look, starting with his blog. Avoid the media reporting and read the case itself and Donfrio's comments specifically. It's actually quite interesting and a very unique approach.

56 posted on 12/06/2008 3:57:25 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: tyke

Since when does the United States decide constitutional matters based on how the stock market might react?


57 posted on 12/06/2008 4:03:38 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

.... as I was just saying, go Orly go!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


58 posted on 12/06/2008 4:22:54 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you, Star Traveler.

I held my nose and just went into Wikipedia and checked on McNut’s birth place.

They continue to have him born in Coco Solo, Canal Zone, rather than Colon, Republic of Panama, as is stated on his CoLB. There was no hospital in Coco Solo until 41-42 when it was built. This is one big glaring error.

I was born in the Canal Zone and live in Panama and know its history.

I appreciate your time with me, but I can’t be sold on Wikipedia.

My best regards.


59 posted on 12/06/2008 4:28:27 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We have writing to all our 27 elector delegates asked the NOT to vote for an illegal alien!!!


60 posted on 12/06/2008 5:30:52 PM PST by danamco
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