Posted on 11/30/2008 10:57:51 PM PST by ckilmer
Obama, asked if he was going to run for the Presidency in 2008, stated that he’d have to start running from day one, when elected into the Senate. He lied, He did.
He must have known then that he was ineligible to serve as President.
Then after the fact [after he was WAS running], the resolution was adopted. Therefore Obama with prior knowledge of his dual citizenship status, foreign adoption, etc. was a fraud.
Obama should NEVER have been permitted to run in the first place.
S. Res. 511, introduced on April 10, 2008 by Senator Claire McCaskill and co-sponsored by Senators Leahy, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Tom Coburn and Jim Webb, reported out of the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, without amendment and by unanimous vote of the Committee, S. Res. 511 expressed the “sense of the Senate,” confirming that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone to parents who were both U.S. citizens, McCain’s father in the U.S. military and the McCain family living and on a U.S. military base, was, indeed, a “natural born” U.S. citizen and, thus, eligible to run for President and, if elected, to be President (http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html). The resolution was adopted in the Senate by unanimous consent on April 30, 2008 (http://tinyurl.com/49xaxe).
You should be able to smell a rat when you consider how nice the irascible Leahy was, and the smell of that rat got a lot stronger when I ran across commentary (see http://tinyurl.com/3uz4ex) that Obama, usually a no show and out campaigning, was in attendance and had a hand in crafting the specific language in this resolution, in particular, McCaskill and Obama added what some Senators thought was the unnecessary phrase,
“Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” (see http://tinyurl.com/3uz4ex)
Meaning that the ineligibility to run, means he was not qualified to run in the primaries and since the resolution was accepted after a number of primaries were already done, he should have been disqualified and removed from the ballots and the delegates given to the other candidates or the primaries re-run.
The issue of Florida and Michigan would have never happened and the DNC would have not been able to allow him to run.
In summary, Obama would never had the delegates or superdelegates nor the ability to have the nomination.
Just like Obama’s admission to holding citizenship from a foreign country at birth, disqualifies him.
From Obama own website:
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor
sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship
automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Question?
How could it expire, if he never had it?
She needs to file against the 0ne!
I think the problem is that the entire election might be considered invalid, and the VP is part of a slate with the Prez candidate. I think Congress would probably end up chosing the acting president, either until there was a new election or some other way of choosing the president. Pelosi would probably be the acting president.
I don’t know if the states, which approve accepting the candidates on the ballot and control the electors to various degrees, can ask the party to choose a different candidate, or if this is something the electors would do on their own in consultation with the winning party. I guess it would probably be Biden, although I don’t think he’s wildly popular even in his own party and maybe, just maybe, Clinton or Gore would be the pick.
Fun to speculate, in any case! I just hope that something happens to get that Manchurian candidate out of there. All of the other Dems would be bad, but at least they’re known quantities. I still can’t believe Americans rushed to vote for somebody about whom so little was and is known.
He had also been a citizen of Indonesia, and had visited his mother there at various points (when he was no longer a minor child). Possibly he was traveling on an Indonesian passport? That certainly would have gotten him through Pakistan.
I’m not sure Pakistan was very friendly to UK citizens at the time that he visited it, even if he had been traveling on a Kenyan passport. In any case, he was over 18 at the time that he did this, and if he was traveling on another country’s passport, that would mean, IMHO, that he had accepted that nationality when he was of legal age.
Whether or not Obama is a citizen or eligible for the presidency, trying to prove he is not because he supported McCain’s eligibility - does not compute. Reminds me of all the articles that “proved” every poll was wrong and McCain was going to win in a landslide.
Wishing things were the way you want them and grasping at every straw is a liberal trait. Get over it. Stick to the facts.
No, Biden would be the President. Why on earth would you think that Dick Cheney would be sworn in? Might as well let Robert Byrd take over.
You're right. And there are going to be a lot of traitors on the list.
If the U.S. Supreme Court rules Obama ineligible, he’ll never take the oath and will be wasting his own time (after he defrauded the American public). Today is the deadline for Obama to answer a “Writ of Certiorari” from Philip J. Berg and the U.S. Supreme Court.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
I noticed some liberals have been posting on other boards that John McCain wasn’t born in the USA either and he’s as guilty as Obama for running an illegal campaign. I bet they are rehasing this stuff to get the judges to throw the Obama lawsuit out.
I thought military births on bases outside the US still meant a child was born as a natural citizen of the United States? I don’t know the answer to that.
Now there’s talk that Clinton shouldn’t be serving as a Secretary of State because of some constitutional law. I guess she got a raise of $3000 or so as a Senate member and that would disqualify her. I wonder will happen with that now?
All those people that said Bush stole the 2000 election and was in the White House illegally ought to take notice that Obama should never enter the front door!!
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States;
Whereas the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’;
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
Since John McCain was actually born in Colon, Panama not on that military base in the Canal Zone as his birth certificate which was made public only after this resolution indicates, is it possible that Obama offered that 5th "Whereas" as a gratuity to McCain, buying his silence on this issue???
And yet McCain was born to American citizens but Obama was not. Forgery or no forgery, Obama has not one strike against him but two.
Pray tolerance for my ineptitude. I was surfing the usual “forget it, nothing here” articles on obama’s birth certificate and one of them referenced this blog as a place where all the current allegations are dispelled. I am so sorry I couldn’t find the pro-obama blog that I got this from.
http://hankrand.blogspot.com/2008/11/small-price-to-pay-for-unity.html
I pulled it up and much to my surprise, it was competently written AND actually supports the further questioning of obama’s papers!
There’s a lot of great arguments in the Freeper threads. But you really need to check this one out just cause it does a simple point-by-point on the main arguments.
It was 1981. That could potentially be a big difference, as in 1982 he became 21, and would have had to renounce his US citizenship and take the oath of allegiance to Kenya to retain Kenyan citizenship. There's no public evidence he did so, nor is there evidence that he had a Kenyan passport nor kept one past his citizenship expiration.
It could have been an Indonesian passport, but it also could have been an American one. There was a travel advisory to Pakistan at the time, I believe, but travel there wasn't banned.
Of course, he doesn't mention the Pakistan trip in his books, but the campaign released a few specifics about it...and they are rather disturbing. The guy's C.V. is so filled with holes and questions that I would grill him pretty well before hiring him!
Hank Rand’s blog did a good job of explaining to the naysayers the serious issue surrounding Obama and his b.c.
Thank you for the link, bossmechanic. You are not “inept”. :)
There is no dispute that Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and therefore a citizen of the U.K.
Amen to that. He even admits to being a Brit citizen AT BIRTH on his “Fight the smears” website
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