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*http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201359.html

**http://www.fas.org/sgp/isoo/guidelines.html

***http://lastpostpublishing.com/Documents/sf86(NEW).pdf

****http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/98-0009.h1.html

*****http://thepoolbar.blogspot.com/2008/10/would-barack-obama-qualify-for-security.html

1 posted on 11/29/2008 8:16:30 AM PST by autumnraine
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Here is my info, you can ping if you want. Not that it will do much good, but anyway...


2 posted on 11/29/2008 8:16:59 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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One way to avoid being unqualified with regard to security clearances is to get elected to be President.


3 posted on 11/29/2008 8:19:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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His drug use is the least of my concerns. When I was young and stupid I tried drugs, and still made something of my life. (dont use anything now- not even alcohol)


4 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:35 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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“Barack Obama would not qualify for High Security Clearance due to prior admitted drug use”

Neither would Clinton. But we got him anyway


5 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:51 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: autumnraine
Nor would he qualify for security clearance because of his alliances with William Ayers. Go figure.


6 posted on 11/29/2008 8:24:35 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: autumnraine

Bill Clinton set many negative precedents - and the MSM backed him up to the hilt.


7 posted on 11/29/2008 8:26:04 AM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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Just to be accurate:

The President *runs* the clearance enterprise.

All classification authorities extend from the President and are delegated by him to his authorized subordinates, and so on in turn.

There is, simply stated, no higher authority to deny clearance to any elected President.


8 posted on 11/29/2008 8:26:46 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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I do know he’d never be commissioned as a military officer, let alone get a high security clearnace.


9 posted on 11/29/2008 8:27:56 AM PST by AngrySpud (Sarah Palin, my sister in Christ.)
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Actually, since he has admitted to drug use, that would not be a direct dis-qualifier. His eligibility would be determined by the length of time since his last usage and the type of drugs. However, he likely would be disqualified because of his political campaign activity for his half-brother in Kenya. All the rest of his foreign family would be a problem, as well. Then there is his aunt, living illegally in Boston.

There is also the problem of the time he spent in school in Indonesia. Some agencies would have a problem with it, others would not.

12 posted on 11/29/2008 8:30:05 AM PST by jimtorr
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The President of the United States, once in office, does not require a security clearance. By virtue of his position and the will of the people he is authorized access to all secure information.

There have been many many presidents throughout the history of the United States who’s personal behavior, would have caused their incarceration at Ft. Leavenworth, KS under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or loss of their security clearance eligibility.

Having said that, as a former servicemember, I hate when scumbags get elected to office, whether it’s at the federal level, state level or local level.


14 posted on 11/29/2008 8:32:03 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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Code word: GOOD TIMES.

16 posted on 11/29/2008 8:34:41 AM PST by They'reGone2000 (<--- Forwarding address: Galt's Gulch)
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When this topic comes up, I always recommend the book, “Unlimited Access”. It’s about a FBI agent assigned to the Clinton white house. He conducted dozens of background checks on personnel in the white house and explains the process and problems he had.


19 posted on 11/29/2008 8:43:49 AM PST by Doug TX
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If you`ll recall,”Dubya” admitted to using Coke in college,& also that He had a DUI during the 70`s..Everyone has something or other in their past that they`re not proud of.One stupid mistake shouldnt ruin your entire life,before or after........


21 posted on 11/29/2008 8:50:08 AM PST by Dirty Pierre
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There is a little wiggle room as he was never convicted. It says “may be disqualifying”.

If there are no court convictions but a person comes clean about the one time he tried dope and puked and never did it again, and his record otherwise is clean, that is a different kind of guy than one who doesn’t have a record but smoked it for years, or dealt it, or still has one every once in awhile.

Of course, barry was a habitual user so even with the ‘wiggle room’ the chances would be very slim they’d let him have a security clearance. Such a person would have to REALLY be someone with skills and talents they just can’t easily find, to overlook that kind of background.


25 posted on 11/29/2008 10:00:15 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Good post. And true. But who will have the courage to enforce it? My son is a Deputy Sheriff. He works on a military base and it took them a year to investigate his background in order to get his security clearance. What he had to go through simply to become a Deputy was 100 times more than what BO has done and BO would have been rejected. Yet another case where regular citizens are held to a much higher standard.
28 posted on 11/29/2008 10:13:54 AM PST by ethical
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To: autumnraine; nuconvert; Twinkie; AngrySpud; omega4179; Secret Agent Man

Fellow Freepers — I am a long-standing member of this board so don’t take me as a troll. But I must say categorically that you all wrong.

The DOD routinely clears people who used drugs, some very extensively. I know a fellow who was an LSD and acid user in the 1970s in college who gave it up, got a PhD in EE, and became a top scientist in classified circles.

The key here is that the drug use is in the past. Which is probably very true for Obama.

Sorry to burst your balloon(s). This post should really come to a quick and painless end.

Spoken by a man who has held clearances all his life — but was never a drug user.


31 posted on 11/29/2008 10:34:08 AM PST by tom h
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Thank you, autumnraine.

Ping.


33 posted on 11/29/2008 11:55:29 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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Obama wouldn't qualify for a security clearance on any level.

Ironically, he would have to fill out a questionnaire which asks, among a slew of other items, his place of birth. He would likely have answered "Honolulu, HI." Then the FBI would check this out and ... I think you know what they would probably find.

34 posted on 11/29/2008 12:21:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Obama would be prohibited from gaining security clearance just for the close associations he's had with terrorists.

Then, there this felony fraud change coming down the pike that would also bar him.

36 posted on 11/29/2008 12:32:25 PM PST by Polarik
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Yeah - this security clearance thing annoys me. I made sure that I was truthful and honest on my SF86 - it’s worse if they catch you lying and I had drug use and alcohol abuse in my past which I have grown apart from and cleaned myself up - but I still could not get a special secret clearance (have a secret) because not enough time had passed - it’s annoying that someone like me, not even in the national spotlight or representing the country to the rest of the world would get denied by this guy w/ all his drug use, voter fraud, associations, shady money deals and international campaign financing gets one! I’m LIVID!


38 posted on 11/29/2008 12:44:09 PM PST by Lilpug15 (I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
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