This article goes in A LOT greater detail than I've seen elsewhere about the intricacies of the Hawaiian birth certificate program.
There's LOTs of different ways that Barry can hide true birth records history.
As the article says, "Critics should be asking the correct questions..."
These intricacies may be why ICE started investigating Hawaii for illegal immigration practices back over the summer.
Extracts from a biography on Answers.comWell, that's a lot -- please read the whole bio. What parallels to the star-crossed power twins of William Ayers and Barrack Obama!Sun Yat-sen was born on Nov. 12, 1866 [bvw -- his Hawaiian birth cert claims he was born Nov. 24, 1876! Obama's date is in question too, but not off by ten years.], into a peasant household Kwangtung [bvw --a province of China]. His early education, like his birthplace, established him as a man of two worlds, China and the West. After a rudimentary training in the Chinese classics in his village school, he was sent to Hawaii in 1879 [bvw -- how like Obama's early years in Indonesian learning Islam, a child of two worlds!], to join his émigré elder brother. There he enrolled at an Anglican college where he studied Western science and religion. Upon graduation in 1882, he returned to his native village, but he soon was banished for defacing the village idols.
Sun spent the formative years of his late teens and early 20s studying [medicine] in Hong Kong.
By the spring of 1893 [bvw-- age 26, corresponding to Obam's Colombia years], he had become more interested in politics than in medicine. Sun returned to Hawaii to organize the Hsing-chung hui (Revive China Society) [bvw -- "Community organizing" of a sort]. When the Sino-Japanese War appeared to present possibilities for the overthrow of the Manchus, Sun returned to Hong Kong and reorganized the Hsing-chung hui as a revolutionary secret society [bvw --the Weathermen of the day] . An uprising was planned in Canton in 1895 but was discovered, and several of Sun's comrades were executed. Having become a marked man, Sun fled and found refuge in Japan.
The pattern for Sun's career was established: hastily organized plots, failures, execution of co-conspirators, overseas wanderings in search of sanctuary and financial backing for further coups [bvw -- sort of like Obam'a pal and mentor William Ayers]. Sun grew a moustache, donned Western-style clothes, and, posing as a Japanese, set out once again, first to Hawaii, then to San Francisco, and finally to England to visit Cantlie. There he was kidnaped by the Chinese legation and held captive pending deportation back to China. Rescued at the last minute through the efforts of Cantlie, he emerged from captivity with an international reputation enhanced by his own account of the event, Kidnapped in London (1897) [bvw -- sort of like "Dreams of My Father"]. Before leaving England, he frequented the reading room of the British Museum [bvw- in Dreams Obama claims to have spent his Colombia years in the college library], where he became acquainted with the writings of Karl Marx [bvw -- Marx again!].
In July 1897 Sun returned to Japan, where he adopted the pseudonym Nakayama (Chinese, Chung-shan). He also attracted the support of prominent Japanese Sinophiles, liberals, and adventurers who hoped that Japan, by promoting political change in China, could build an Asian bloc against the West. [bvw -- Change! And an alliance with plotters like Soros et al.]
[...] By the time he arrived back in China on Christmas Day, rebellion had spread through the Yangtze Valley. A tumultuous welcome greeted Sun, and in Nanking, revolutionary delegates from 14 provinces elected him president of a provisional government. On Jan. 1, 1912, Sun Yat-sen proclaimed the establishment of the Republic of China.
[...civil war...] He undertook, moreover, to breathe new life into the faltering Kuomintang and to set in motion a thoroughgoing reorganization of the party. Of equal consequence was Sun's decision to accept support from the Soviet Union Part of the agreement provided for the admission of individual Chinese Communists into the Kuomintang. On Jan. 26, 1923, in a joint manifesto with Sun, Soviet envoy Adolph Joffe guaranteed Russian support for the reunification of China.
By the middle of February 1923 Sun was back again as head of a military government. On October 6 Michael Borodin arrived in Canton, having been sent by the Comintern in response to Sun's request for an adviser on party organization. In January 1924 the first National Congress of the Kuomintang approved a new constitution which remodeled the party along Soviet lines. At the top of a tightly disciplined pyramidal structure was to be a Central Executive Committee with bureaus in charge of propaganda, workers, peasants, youth, women, investigation, and military affairs. Sun's Three People's Principles were restated to emphasize anti-imperialism and the leading role of the party.
To the point of the thread note how Sun moved effortlessly from one nation to another, community organizing, power group organizing and playing-off one another, making and breaking alliances, establishing secret organizations. And deftly changing identities!
Excellent job, man somebody is out gunning for you, I have seen all kinds of threats made in that direction of articles like this, keep up the work, keep fighting, and keep track of all other documents like the selective service form.
This is like the ending of Serenity when the message of truth gets broadcasted across the galaxy.
Verbal accounts by some of Obama’s family reportedly indicate Obama’s birthplace was either Kapiolani or Queens Hospital in Hawaii on Aug. 8, 1961. However, no birthing records reportedly can be found in either of the two hospitals, and no records seem to exist that list Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, as a patient at either hospital. Also, no medical staff has come forward to offer affidavits of Obama’s birth. A birth announcement appeared in the Aug. 13, 1963 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser, however, it’s not definitive if the announcement was placed by the Department of Vital Statistics or a family member. If the latter is true, it’s plausible that Obama and mother may not have been on the island at the time of birth.
We the People.. listen up.
The entire BARACK OBAMA birth story is just plain weird and highly suspect.
Consider this. Stanley Dunham is about to give birth to little Barack. But where is her husband and the baby’s father, Barack Sr ??? Ummm, he is nowhere to be found. Gee, you think he might want to be with his wife when is baby is born.
Now, if I told my wife I was going to go to be living in Kenya right before our baby was born, she would pop a cork. So maybe that is what Stanley Dunham did. She followed the to-be father to Kenya. Unfortunately, she was near term and she couldn’t get back to the USA so she had no choice but to have the baby right there in the manger surrounded by the family, the family goat, the family donkey, and three wise Kenyan warlords. (The manger has now been converted to a shrine to commemorate the event.)
Yessirree. Its pretty obvious what’s going on. Obama is being BLACKMAILED by the Clintons. The Hildabeast has some really good DIRT on the MESSIAH. I am thinking she has either a copy of his true birth certificate and/or something about his past, something that would be so revolting that his most ardent followers would abandon him. Whatever she has in her lockbox, it must be good. Ever wonder why the Hildabeast smiles every time she whispers into Obama’s ear? Ever wonder why the Obama cabinet looks the 2nd coming of the Clintons? Now we have the answer.
The MSM and the Washington political machine, through a whisper campaign organized by the Clintonites, have been told not to talk about the birth certificate issue. True to their allegiences (and out of sheer fright of the Clinton Machine) the MSM are keeping mum.
BP2 Kudos for doing the job that the MSM won’t do. Once this issue gets legs, people like you deserve the credit.
Obama is hiding something! I don’t believe that he is eligible to serve as President.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
Anyone who thinks Google isn’t censoring, please notice when you click on the link, it says that the use is being investigated for abuse of terms of service!!
To have a FULL accounting, the "birth certificate" is NOT enough. The ENTIRE "birth record" on file with the Secretary of Health Vital Statistics Office, as well as any archived files with the former "Secretary of Hawaii" (as was the procedure under the Organic Act of 1900), should be examined to determine if a “Late Birth Certificate” with modifications, or a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth” is present or has been archived away from the "vault copy."
Seems like Hawaii makes a clear distinction between the short-form, Certification of Live Birth, and the "longer, but not long form," Certificate of Live Birth from what they call a "standard birth certificate," which is Hawaii's long-form, Certificate of Live Birth, or the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, or any complete, original Birth Certificate, or Certificate of Birth (same thing) issued BY ANOTHER STATE OR COUNTRY at the time of birth, signed by the attending doctor, parent(s), and so on.
From my understanding of the Law, there is a big difference between having a "standard birth certificate" on record AND a late registration, Certificate of Live Birth, which is substituted (but is not a substitute) for a nonexistent "standard birth certificate."
According to Vital Records:
A request to amend a Certificate of Live Birth will, however, be considered to be and treated as an application with the Department of Health for registration of a late certificate of birth in current use, unless a standard birth certificate for that person already exists in the vital records of the Department of Health.
If there is a standard birth certificate on record, and the approval is given to amend it with an application for a new Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, THEN the original, standard birth certificate is put in an envelope and sealed, and the existing birth record is updated -- but, it is definitely NOT called an original birth certificate.
If there is NO standard birth certificate on record, and the approval is given to accept a new Certificate of Live Birth, THEN that COB becomes a late birth registration, and the information on it is used to create a new birth record.
BUT, Hawaii DOES NOT label that birth record, a "Standard birth record," because it was created with a late birth, COB.
What if the request for amending the standard birth record is denied? Then the standard birth record remains in force.
What if the request for creating a late birth COB is denied? Then there will be no birth records of any kind.
Again, here are the rules:
If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health.
What if there was an exisiting birth record, and the request from Obama's mother is approved, but she never surrenders the previous COB or whatever was the standard birth record? I would imagine that the approval would be rescinded, as if it never was approved. Or, perhaps approval is only given contingent upon getting that COB back?
There were two events that might, at least, reduce the possible scenarios.
First off, I'd bet that what turned out to be a rumor, that Gov. Lingle had "sealed" Obama's original birth certificate, was actually a misunderstood communication leaked to the press regarding what was said. Namely, that Obama does have a an "original birth certificate" sitting in a sealed envelope, and THAT is what Directors Fukino and Onaka "formally verified," because (a) there was a sealed envelope, and (b) only the Health Department can seal a birth record.
Now, what's in that "sealed" envelope? I can tell you what is NOT iin that sealed envelope, and that is the bogus information on a forged COLB.
This is very fascinating. Worth a read just to understand the intricacies of the 20th century Hawaiian birth records "system." No one born before 1971 in Hawaii can have their citizenship accepted without question; a deeper check is needed across the board. Not that such an investigation would take much time or cost much. There's no excuse for the media being blind on this issue. It's more interesting than half of the legal stuff that is pursued on Greta and Nancy Grace et al.
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
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FYI, the original Blogspot page is history. Sure glad you cut’n’pasted the full source. Good job.
Thanks for posting this great resource.
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