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Obama Birth Certificate Facts and Obama Citizenship Facts
Obama Birth Certificate Facts ^ | Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:35 am

Posted on 11/27/2008 5:25:52 PM PST by ckilmer

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To: Kleon

Jerome Corsi went there to do just that before the election.

He was picked up by the Kenyan authorities, held for 12 hours and told to “get the hell out of Kenya” and he was not welcome back.

No joke. He called the embassy he was so scared. A journalist for crying out loud!


21 posted on 11/27/2008 7:01:13 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Good answer Rose.

(why am I having Family Fued flashbacks, haha)


22 posted on 11/27/2008 7:02:47 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: boxer21

George Bush did not have one parent that was not a US Citizen. George Bush did not share a citizenship with another nation (Kenya-admitted, Indonesian-assumed with his name and school records) to muddy his water as Barack does.

The rules are different in that instance, as in the instance of Barack Obama.


23 posted on 11/27/2008 7:05:16 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine

I included those points in my argument as well - machs nix, closed minds are difficult to pry open.


24 posted on 11/27/2008 7:09:07 PM PST by boxer21
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To: chicagolady
What a terrible insult to black people for this man Obama to forge his way into power, when there are legitimate black men and women who would be such better role models than a fraudulent 'longlegged macdaddy'. This fraud is an insult to black people who have worked their way to higher education, great accomplishment, and not lied and forged their way to be an 'affirmative action' candidate for the presidentcy! Obama isn't worthy to tie Thomas Sowell's shoes, or brush Justice Clarence Thomas's robe. Yet this fraud actually stated at Saddleback that of all the Justices on the SCOTUS, he would not have appointed Clarence Thomas and would in fact remove him if he could!

Barack Hussein Obama has used black people and forged his way through life. And America will now pay the price for adoring such a wicked man who used the cancellation of Constitutional rights of newborns in order to try and protect abortion in Illinois. Evil, wicked man that

25 posted on 11/27/2008 7:22:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ckilmer
Something that every government employee needs to produce to get a security clearance.

Here, every child must have one to get into kindergarden.

26 posted on 11/27/2008 7:29:31 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Does the Constitution specify that a candidate will provide "a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon"?

No, but to become a mere ensign or second lieutenant, to get a security clearance. To be a teacher, or a school bus driver, cafeteria worker, or janitor, you must provide a birth certificate to prove you are who and what you say you are. Those and other positions require a background check.

Why should we require less of a candidate who if installed in office will have his finger on the nuclear trigger. Now in most cases there is no question of the candidates birth. Their parents are often available to tell what they know (for instance John McCain's mother was on the podium with him on election day), while Obama's (half) sister tells conflicting stories of his birth place. (Of course she is his younger sister, and cannot actually know first hand), meanwhile other relatives who could know first hand, "grandmother" (in a peculiar Kenyan Muslim way), uncle etc, tell yet another story, one of his birth in Kenya.

Is it asking so much for him to provide his version of the record whose very purpose is document one's birth?

27 posted on 11/27/2008 7:30:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Free America52
Question — If he wasn’t born there, why do they have any records to protect?

Ding Ding Ding!

We have a winner!

28 posted on 11/27/2008 7:31:02 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Free America52

“What I don’t get is that no one is making more out of these words...”

Agreed!

If there is good authority for these words, as in an official statement by the government of Kenya, we may be hearing a lot more about this point.

We all must contact the hotdog Republican politicians and politely demand action. We can’t let the Republicans do what they did in the Senate with Clinton trial.


29 posted on 11/27/2008 7:31:05 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Obama has NOT provided a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon, to be used to conclusively prove his “natural born” citizenship status per the U.S. Constitution.

Does the Constitution specify that a candidate will provide “a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon”?

I didn’t think so.
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The rules for running for president are higher than other offices. The person has to be a “natural born” citizen. That’s why Arnold Schwartnegger didn’t run. He is a naturalized citizen.

You need a birth certificate to get any job that requires a security clearance for the US government.


30 posted on 11/27/2008 7:34:43 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: boxer21
a passport should suffice for Obama; It would suffice, if a copy of the long form bc were required to obtain it, which is usually but not always the case, and if it shows, as it should, place of birth.

Of course the problem with that is that his passport records were "accessed improperly", earlier in the campaign. The question is, was it to take something out, even if just information, or put something in that wasn't there before.

31 posted on 11/27/2008 7:35:09 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I had to provide a certified birth certificate to join the Navy, why shouldn’t The Messiah have to produce one to be my CINC?


32 posted on 11/27/2008 7:42:28 PM PST by Duck Fan
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To: YellowRoseofTx
No, but it does state that you are required to be a Natural Born citizen, so "a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon" would prove that.

Unless you have another solution.

Great retort, Rose. You beat me to it.

33 posted on 11/27/2008 7:53:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: boxer21
machs nix, closed minds are difficult to pry open.

Boy, do I know that mindset. Makes me want to use that pry bar to do something else to their heads besides open it.

Ya know?

34 posted on 11/27/2008 7:55:15 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Free America52

The point of the lawsuits is to OBTAIN the evidence, through discovery that the Courts should order the POS-elect to provide. It is going to take a court order to release the Hawaii BC, regardless of what the Kenyan govt has or says it has or doesnt have.

It is impossible to make an accurate and valid conclusion without the proper records, and they need to be disclosed.

Our favorite talk show hosts might serve the public’s interests better by at least taking the position that he SHOULD produce the requested dscovery, and not to stonewall these claims.

I understand the roadblock presented by the standing issue that resulted in the court dismissing Berg’s case, but perhaps Keyes will have more success getting by this threshold issue.


35 posted on 11/27/2008 8:03:50 PM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Question — If he wasn’t born there, why do they have any records to protect?

Ding Ding Ding!

We have a winner!

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Nope no winner on this one. Hawaii's law was that no matter what country you were born in, a record of your birth could be registered in Hawaii and become a Hawaian citizen. Just because he has a BC registered in Hawaii doesn't mean he was born there.

36 posted on 11/27/2008 8:10:44 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Oops, sorry, I answered to the wrong question. Disregard by previous post to you


37 posted on 11/27/2008 8:14:44 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: ckilmer

Getting people to focus on the citizenship issue is one of the smartest tactics Obama has used to defuse his opposition. If he permitted the release of the original birth certificate, thousands of those who oppose him would move on to investigating other aspects of his life. As it is, his strongest opponents are preoccupied with a probably irrelevant matter - even if he was born outside of the USA, nobody is disputing that Stanley is his mother and I doubt the Supreme Court would rule that “Natural Born” citizen does not include those born overseas to US citizens...but why force them to make that decision now, when he can have conspiracy theorists chasing their tails demanding the irrelevant birth certificate and making themselves look delusional after the Republican governor of Hawaii has confirmed that the original does show he was born here?


38 posted on 11/27/2008 8:34:50 PM PST by Clear Air Turbulence
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To: Clear Air Turbulence

What people are wondering is that why has Obama spent $800,000 to stonewall the release of a $10 birth certificate.

The New York Times ran front page stories about questions pertaining to John McCain’s citizenship in February March and April.

In May McCain released original long forms of his birth certificate.

The questions stopped.

Why doesn’t Obama do the same?

This should be pro forma.

That Obama is stonewalling is going to cause problems.

Matter is already up for review by the supreme court.


39 posted on 11/27/2008 8:41:42 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer; autumnraine; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...

Thank you,autumnraine.

Ping to article, also, check out #28.


40 posted on 11/27/2008 8:48:16 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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