Posted on 11/26/2008 8:54:48 AM PST by Amityschild
Does this Barack Obama birth certificate issue bug you because, although improbable, it's possible that he's not a natural born citizen, isn't eligible to be President under the Constitution, and this issue could be bigger than Watergate -- or any other "gate" in history?
Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so?
Are you with the news media, and after spending so much money to get Barack Obama elected, you'd hate to ruin your investment?
Are you a talk radio host who thinks that if you say the burden of proof needed to demonstrate one is eligible to be Commander in Chief should be at least as high as, oh, say, the level to be eligible for Hawaiian homestead status (see 1.F. below), that you'd be forced to give equal time to someone who disagrees?
Are you a conservative, libertarian, or any conscientious constitutionalist from any ideological side of life, who's convinced something's not right, but you're afraid your reputation might be tarnished because, after all, this could be one big Saul-Alinsky-style set-up, and the joke would be on you?
Fear not! Joe the Farmer has prepared an outline showing that no matter how this issue is ultimately resolved, you have legitimate concerns, and that Barack Obama should, simply out of respect for the nation he was elected to lead, disclose the sealed vault copy of his birth certificate.
Given the circumstances, if Barack Obama respected this nation, he would prove it by the simplest and easiest of gestures - unless, of course, all this talk about change and hope was just a bunch of bull, and he's just "another politician."
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
B. That October 31, 2008 statement says that Dr. Fukino "ha[s] personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." That statement does not, however, verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, and as explained above, under Hawaiian policies and procedures it is quite possible that Hawaii may have a birth record of a person not born in Hawaii. Unlikely, but possible.
Unlikely, but possible? Considering his sister was born in Indonisia and has a birth certificate on record in Hawaii (showing place of birth as Indonisia) why is that unlikely. Should say it is very possible considering his sister's BC.
Otherwise a very good article with well stated logic on why O should provide his BC.
The problem isn’t the ‘possibility’ he isn’t a natural born citizen, the problem is, he has been certified by all the States and the State of Hawaii has certified the COLB. This puts the burden of proof on us, not on Obama’s camp. We can’t just cast doubt, we have to provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This means providing evidence far more than what bloggers have shown, we can’t have any holes in our case, period.
Where is there info on Obama’s sister’s BC? Please?
Ping!!
I believe this all makes FR look foolish. This is the sort of thing that we denigrate and make fun of when the other side does it.
The “other side” wants to distract conservatives from keeping a watchful eye on the Zero administration. What better way to distract them is with the birth certificate issue. We all know that Zero isn’t going to produce the orignal.
Yeah..., these articles (which seem to be “coming out of the woodwork” now...) are good for raising the consciousness of a lot of people in regards to this issue.
BUT, there remains the big overriding question — as to what someone (or “anyone”) can do about it — to get this thing verified, absolutely, once and for all???
You said — “We all know that Zero isn’t going to produce the orignal.”
Yes, we do see that, and we see him and his team of lawyers fighting that very thing and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars doing it.
So, there’s only one other option — to *force him* (or rather, some agency who supposedly has the original) to produce it for proof. I go for that option — of forcing him (or the agency involved)...
There is ONE thing that makes me think there is something there, that is the grandmother’s statements he was born in Kenya. That, however, is not the proof we need. If we pull the trigger on this without having all our ducks in a row, it will flop. There are way too many holes in our evidence(sic) now.
These comments that imply Obama has no need to prove his eligibility for the office of President are sad to see. Then to impune Free Republic posters and say we are just being silly to raise the issue is incredible to me.
Well, just call me foolish.
It says alot about his "intellect" and willingness to throw money around. It shows a disdain for the constitution. Innocent people do not act like this.
That's what it shows me.
Correction to my last post!
Hawaii DID NOT certify his COLB, they merely said he has a BC on record not what the BC says or where he was born. The proof is on Bozo, not the electorate. The founders clearly expected people to provide proof of their birth. The fact that the qualification exists in the Constitution is ample evidence that the candidate must provide proof of his/her qualifications, including proof of birth, otherwise why bother placing qualifications in the Constitution? Bozo is clearly responsible for proving he was born in the US. It is such a simple thing to do, and because he won't do it proves to me he is not a Natural born citizen.
All the Secretaries of State certified his candidacy. This means they certified he met the threshold for their States to be on the ticket. Sorry, but the burden of proof is always on the accuser.
I agree. The Republican governor (and Sarah Palin pal) sealed the birth certificate... probably to avoid any accusation of improper conduct, but someone would have to explain why SHE was in on the coverup. This is the sort of thing that "losers" focus on.. better to focus on the big FDR/socialist revolution that's about to happen unless the Repubs grow a spine and become a real opposition party.
However, I think we are going to have to deal with this false presidency anyway. Not even the USSC will rule on this truthfully. We are too far gone now, it's too little, too late. This should have been brought out during the primaries and even when he ran for Senator from Illinois but we all know how that ended. Get used to hearing well, uh, uh on the TV from the pretend messiah.
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