Chosen. Questions?
Homosexuality, for the most part at least, is just a fashion statement.
It’s hard to imagine why anyone would choose to be many things that are deviations of the norm. Do people choose to be pedophiles? Arsonists? Fetishists? It’s hard to know if it’s genetic (could well be, but I’m not convinced) however, if it’s not it doesn’t mean it was a conscious choice, as in, they woke up one day and said, “Hey, I think I would rather have relations with someone the same sex as I am!).
Previous to our PC world it was considered a mental illness of sorts, and I’m sure there were various theories on why someone would end up this way. Now, I doubt we can even study it as the wrath of the homosexual rights groups would come down on your head.
If it’s genetic, is it ok with homosexuals if couples abort babies because they carry the gene to be homosexual? I would love to know the answer to that one.
Either way, IMHO, those people are in need of counseling help because it is not only unnatural, it is downright dangerous to ones health, as evidenced by any objective look at health criteria as well as proposenities to certaian types of crime.
So when society...and a new President, calls it okay, does that then somehow that makes it okay?
As with any other divergent behavior, saying it is okay does not make it okay.
I do not believe any society has survived embracing such behavior or life styles.
every truly gay friend I’ve ever had believes he was born that way. They say they knew as early as they could remember that it was same sex people who made their hearts beat faster, way before puberty. Seems clear to me they are born that way.
We all have bad inclinations, tendencies and temptations that we did not choose. What tempts you mayy not tempt me. I don’t know the man but my guess is that Warren Buffet is not tempted to shop lift. He may well have a tendency for pride. Don’t know. Yes, there are people who some how developed homosexual issues. Does not mean they chose them nor does it mean that they need to give in to them. They had no choice conscious choice in their development. They do have a choice as to whether they will give in to destructive and sinful behavior.
"Homosexuality Is Not Hardwired," Dr. Francis S. Collins, Head Of The Human Genome Project
New Evidence Found for Childhood Family Factors Influencing Sexual Orientation
How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
The Importance of Twin Studies
The Gay Gene?
The Fading Gay Gene
The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science
You can be born with a particular racial makeup.
You can not be born to a particular religion or lifestyle.
I can accept, grudgingly, well, more accurately, kicking and screaming, the concept of discrimination based upon gender or race, but anything built upon religious or sexual preference is a farce to me.
To those who declare that there’s a gay gene - stop making excuses for a lifestyle choice. The ‘criminal gene’ theories have all been thrown out, it is just a choice by the criminal.
As a first comment, it's not their foot that I would be worried about.
As a second comment, it's a choice, not something they are born with.
I have friends that used to be homosexual. I've even had some of them come on to me when they believed they were homosexual, even knowing that I wasn't homosexual in any way, shape, or fashion.
In all these cases, actually about four cases, which are all of my formerly homosexual friends, they have become heterosexual, married, and two now have children.
All have cited me as a determining factor that 'turned' them from their former ways.
Seeing my marriage, my love for my wife, my faithfulness to my wife, and realizing that they had never had anything even close to that in their own lives caused them to realize that their way of live was not the way they were meant to be.
I take no pride in this fact. I'm just reporting what they have told me.
How about adultery? Or polygamy? Or pedophilia? Or bestiality? Or necromancy? Chosen or innate? To be normalized because they exist?.
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Now, some people may not understand what I'm saying so I'll try to explain...
When I say gays are not born with their same-sex attraction, I mean just that, and at the same time, I mean they don't choose their same-sex attraction. Somebody might say "huh"? They're not born that way and they don't choose their same-sex attraction? (Well, there's a small group, a tiny minority that admit to choosing their same-sex attraction). Some psychologists and ex-gays will tell you the same thing. Ex-gays tell us when they experienced their same-sex attraction, they were confused about their sexuality.
So they're not born with it and for the most part, they don't choose it. It's complicated.
Can't argue with that.
It's recruited by unrepentant fallible humans who prey upon those who have ill-defined sexual self-concepts.
I know some identical twins, one of whom is gay, the other of whom is straight.
So my experience is that sometimes, it is chosen.
Let’s assume for a moment that it is inate. God knows that, and He still said the practice of homosexual sex is a sin. Indulging our feelings and desires is not an entitlement.
God’s goal for us in self-control.
Most homosexuals choose their partners; inmates, on the other hand, are victimiz. . .oh, wait! Innate! Never mind. . .
First,
there is no gene that determines if you are gay. Both gay and regular scientists have been looking for at least 10 years and they haven;t found one.
Second, identical twin studies prove that homosexuality is not an immutable choice. If one identical twin is ‘gay’ there is a 50 percent chance the other is. If it were purely because of genetics, the other identical twin would be gay 100% of the time. Therefore, homosexuality cannot be the “I don’t have a choice” possibility.
Third, we have evidence from the gays and lesbians themselves that have said they have made a conscious decision to be gay or lesbian. These people made the decision, and they are gay people. Some have switched back, some have flip-flopped a bunch of times. Some have made the deliberate choice and stayed that way.
Environment and experiences during the critical sexual identity years have a signifucant impact on them. Teaching people that it’s okay to be gay during these times of their lives only makes things worse.
For the most part male homosexuality is coerced. If when talking with a homosexual you can get them to truly talk openly about their youth you’ll find that they were molested and then browbeat by another homosexual until they accepted it. It’s why the gays go into teaching, churches and want to get into military training camps so badly. Wait till the ‘Civilian Defense’ thing gets started, they’ll be crawling out of the woodwork then.
For a serious discussion, I recommend “Homosexuality A Freedom Too Far”.
Basically, there are two types: those who choose it, and those whose early life results in very powerful homosexual tendencies. For the latter, the choice is minimal.
I think you’re born that way. Too many kids I knew growing up came out of the closet when they left my home town. None of them surprised me. They were effeminate as children.