Posted on 11/19/2008 12:01:49 AM PST by blueplum
Berg issues three challenges in ad on page 5:
1) Was Barack Obama born in Kenya? 2) Is he really a citizen of Indonesia? 3) Does the Constitution still matter?
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/news/65-full-page-ad-in-washington-times-weekly-november-17-2008
Wrong. Souter merely denied the request for an injunction; the case still awaits response from the Obama camp. No ruling has been made as to the validity of the claim itself.
What a complete waste of time and money and message.
Like Ms. Palin said, we rock-solid conservatives will find it very hard to win back public trust by trying to be “Negative Party” or “Conspiracy Party”.
What does this lawsuit and political-hit-job achieve? Fox ran this day in day out and still Mr. O won a landslide.
Cant we just get the message: People dont care about conspiracies or negativities. They want solutions to their everyday problems.
I firmly believe that its such tactics that will make it harder for us to regain the political dice.
Instead of re-grouping with a solid agenda, here we are being conspiracy theorists, negative laden and fear mongering.
I for one think there is a holistic message of purpose and solid credentials in the conservative principles. And I dont mean the Bush, McCain or Dole ones. I mean the true conservative Buckley principles.
We were foolish to have allowed our party to put forth candidates who dont gell with our message and principles. For 20 years, we have put candidates on the ballot who are “conservative light” and who dont stand for nothing:
- Bush 1 in 1988 and 1992
- Dole 1 in 1996
- Bush 2 in 2000 and 2004
- McCain in 2008
And we have got blamed for all the past 20 years of excesses that the “Conservative Light” candidates made.
Such “conservative light” candidates relied on Atwater or Rovian or Hannity tactics to win our primaries and represent our messages. And we are paying for having fallen for that trick within our very own party.
The problems of our party are not the RATS or the country. The problems is within the party. We have different versions of Conservative Light facing in and out. Its time to stack the deck, roll the dice and let the chips fall where they may.
If 2010 comes around and we are still promoting such campaigns like Berg’s and Keyes (who knew O from Chicago), we shall perform even much worser.
At the rate things are going, looks like some of us are going to seat out the next election.
If it was discovered Obama is not eligible to be President (if in fact that is true) what is the legal recourse if this is discovered under the following circumstances:
1. It is discovered before the electoral college meets in December.
2. It is discovered after they meet and elect Obama as President but before inaguration.
3. It is discovered after he is sworn in as president.
Whom would become President? Biden? Pelosi, the horror of that thought boggles the mind. McCain?
I would suspect we would be in uncharted constitutional waters.
At first I thought the Birth Certificate issue was a Red Herring put out by the Obama camp to set up the conservatives as crazies and then prove it by producing a legitimate BC showing him as being born in Hawaii. He did not do this and still resists producing the BC showing him as being born in Hawaii. There is nothing for him to gain politically at this time in not producing a legitimate BC showing his birth in Hawaii. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!
The logic of Oscams Razor "one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything" would indicate he is not eligible to be President of the United States
I’m sorry — was it something I said err wrote???
Greeley's Electors were then freed to vote for whomever they chose, and they did exactly that. If Obama's Electors were freed, because it was established in STATE courts that he was ineligible to run for President, they would probably coalesce around Hillary Clinton and elect her as President.
Biden would still be Vice President because he is qualified for that office, and was on the ballot for that office. See Amendment Twelve. Pelosi would have nothing to do with it, because there would be both a President and a Vice President.
Dammit,folks. Read the Constitution. Crack open a history book. These are only "uncharted waters" for those who ignore both the Constitution and our history -- like most members of the MSM. Don't descend to that level.
Congressman Billybob
Latest article, "The Barack Obama - King George Connection"
The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.
You are correct about our Fore Fathers giving us a masterfull document on which to build a nation. Our troubles as a great nation occur when we ignore and violate this document at the judicial, legislative and executive levels.
As Franklin said, “A Republic if you can keep it!”
You are correct about our Fore Fathers giving us a masterfull document on which to build a nation. Our troubles as a great nation occur when we ignore and violate this document at the judicial, legislative and executive levels.
As Franklin said, “A Republic if you can keep it!”
it’s a bit late i think though, should have been make an issue before the election.
Here’s a question for you.
If he skates through to Jan 20 can he pardon himself from this so he can continue to act as POTUS?
Anything is possible when you’re the new messiah.
It was.
Oh, it just acheives the little issue of seeing that the person holding the highest office in the country is following the constitution. Do you want to let our leader or his party decide what parts of the constitution they will obey? Fox ran this day in day out? To my knowledge Fox has never ran a BC story. The MSM including Fox has ignored this ever since the Hillary support Berg filed the 1st lawsuit.
....candidates relied on Atwater or Rovian or Hannity tactics to win our primaries and represent our messages...
Atwater has been out of the picture for over 15 years. Rovian or Hannity tactics? What is your definition of Rovian or Hannity tactics. I don't think I can ever recall a conservative using that phrase?
A very interesting post for your 1st on FR.
Boy, you’re really getting around the threads for a brand newby!
That (post 42 here) was his 1st on the FR. Troll? Certainly not a conservative.
Constitutional crisis looming over Obama’s birth location
To: FreeAtlanta
What a waste of time and money. Who cares? The election is over. Get over it.
2,263 posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:03:22 AM by Conservative who is not a GoP
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He was here before that.
I am sure the Post would not take the ad. At least it’s a start. The fact that they have this ad will make news.
He’s a minder, got a mission. Code words: move on. Several of them have used it.
He’s banned.
Thank goodness.
Very odd posts. Went to a lot of Obama BC threads saying over and over “I haven’t time for this, it’s frivilous”. Also complained about the economy and services being cut. Sounded like a DUmmie.
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