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To: cpdiii
No, no. no, this is not "uncharted constitutional waters." I've written repeatedly posted the comment that people should look at what happened when Horace Greeley died after the popular election and before the Electoral College met.

Greeley's Electors were then freed to vote for whomever they chose, and they did exactly that. If Obama's Electors were freed, because it was established in STATE courts that he was ineligible to run for President, they would probably coalesce around Hillary Clinton and elect her as President.

Biden would still be Vice President because he is qualified for that office, and was on the ballot for that office. See Amendment Twelve. Pelosi would have nothing to do with it, because there would be both a President and a Vice President.

Dammit,folks. Read the Constitution. Crack open a history book. These are only "uncharted waters" for those who ignore both the Constitution and our history -- like most members of the MSM. Don't descend to that level.

Congressman Billybob

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45 posted on 11/19/2008 9:01:42 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Larest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I do understand the electoral college would deal with it if discovered prior to college meeting in December. My area of inquiry is what would happen if it is discovered after the meeting or after swearing in?

You are correct about our Fore Fathers giving us a masterfull document on which to build a nation. Our troubles as a great nation occur when we ignore and violate this document at the judicial, legislative and executive levels.

As Franklin said, “A Republic if you can keep it!”

46 posted on 11/19/2008 9:18:27 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I do understand the electoral college would deal with it if discovered prior to college meeting in December. My area of inquiry is what would happen if it is discovered after the meeting or after swearing in?

You are correct about our Fore Fathers giving us a masterfull document on which to build a nation. Our troubles as a great nation occur when we ignore and violate this document at the judicial, legislative and executive levels.

As Franklin said, “A Republic if you can keep it!”

47 posted on 11/19/2008 9:24:05 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Congressman Billybob; STARWISE

Good to read what you wrote.

In the Constitution, Ammendment 20, section 3, it explains about a President Elect, but Obama is not President Elect until the Electoral votes are in.

Right now he may be in “no-mans’ land, lol.

AMENDMENT XX
Passed by Congress March 2, 1932. Ratified January 23, 1933.

Note: Article I, section 4, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of this amendment. In addition, a portion of the 12th amendment was superseded by section 3.

Section 1.
The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

Section 2.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Section 4.
The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

Section 5.
Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

Section 6.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.

[thanks for ping STARWISE]


61 posted on 11/19/2008 2:00:04 PM PST by potlatch
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