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Gerald Celente: Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012
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Posted on 11/14/2008 10:07:38 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: Zevonismymuse

There’s self-reliance and then there’s self-reliance. I suspect the kind of self-reliance you mention can be equated with subsistence living using antique skill sets.


101 posted on 11/14/2008 10:51:56 AM PST by durasell
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To: Citizen Blade

Those wanting to live by “free state” rules stay or they’re free to leave.

Those coming IN to free states, however, must pass some basic civics courses (which would inherently be de facto ideological test because you’d have to understand founding principles).


102 posted on 11/14/2008 10:52:43 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: Dr. Marten

For a guy who is not a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard, he sounds an awful lot like a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard.


103 posted on 11/14/2008 10:53:30 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: Centurion2000

Whole Oats can definitely be kept for years.

Most hard grains (unground) store for years. The hard outer shell is a near perfect container.

Hermetically sealed white rice (no oxygen) will keep 8-10 years. Unfortunately, white rice has little nutritional value.

Brown rice, which contains essential fatty acids, goes rancid in about 6 months.

BTW, alfalfa seeds germinate beautifully after 3 years storage.


104 posted on 11/14/2008 10:54:49 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: basalt

http://www.endtimesreport.com/Starvation_In_America.html

Read the above article. Read the yellow highlighted part twice. Then think about it.

Problem is, if there was ANY DISRUPTION IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN, we’d have 200+ million people sitting around whining about how hungry they were, and saying over and over “It’s not my fault..”

Cry me a freakin river...


105 posted on 11/14/2008 10:54:56 AM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: Dr. Marten
Turkeys cost more this year.

"As an increasing number of farms devote their corn crops to the production of ethanol rather than animal feed, feed costs have exploded, from less than $1 per bushel last year to more than $4 today.

Turkey feed is about one-third of the cost of raising a turkey," she said. "We feed turkeys a combination of corn and soybean."

With many growers switching to the more profitable corn for ethanol, turkey farmers are trying to cope with a one-two punch of increasing corn prices and decreased soybean production.

According to some estimates, the higher prices translate to about an 8 cent increase per pound, per turkey, or about a 35 percent increase in the cost of raising just one bird.

106 posted on 11/14/2008 10:55:17 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dr. Marten

People are already holding back on spending. My family has made the decision not to buy Christmas gifts this year. And I’m sure we’re not alone. With no one spending there will be no tax to collect. With no one working there will be no income tax to collect. I’ve probably got enough cash to last 6 months. That is if the bank stays open and if the cash has any value.

I see an “end of the world” crisis coming. Personally I believe it is Biblical. But for those who disagree, there is still an “end” coming.

I said on another thread as I told my wife this morning, A millionaire and a homeless man will be equal. The homeless man will have no money and the millionaire’s money will be worthless. Then it will be the survival of the fittest. Is this what the Mayan’s and other ancients were predicting?

If all of this comes to pass then it made no difference who won the election. It’s time to turn to God.


107 posted on 11/14/2008 10:55:48 AM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: KittenClaws

Nice link.

Thanks


108 posted on 11/14/2008 10:56:02 AM PST by poobear (Tagline has been temporarily suspended...)
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To: MrB
Those wanting to live by “free state” rules stay or they’re free to leave.

What if conservatives in liberal states, or liberals in conservative states, don't want to leave their homes and want to keep advocating the political positions they believe in? Then what?

109 posted on 11/14/2008 10:57:43 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: poobear
Nutritionally it is not worth it. You are better off with buckwheat, Dry corn, flax, kamut, millet, durum wheat, hard red wheat, hard white wheat, soft wheat, Special bake wheat, Spelt, and Triticale.

For sheer calories, it can be stored hermetically sealed with no oxygen.

110 posted on 11/14/2008 11:01:15 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Citizen Blade

I suppose they could, but I wouldn’t see the point.

What you want is only a simple move away. I couldn’t understand a conservative staying in a “people’s republic” just because they like their house. And as far as changing the policies of their region, well, that’s the point of the separation.


111 posted on 11/14/2008 11:01:20 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: TaxRelief

rice doesn’t last four years...

Yes it can- dry pack canned way longer than that so long as it is not brown rice.


112 posted on 11/14/2008 11:01:25 AM PST by newhouse
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To: Dr. Marten

I’ve got to finish my third novel in a hurry, or it’ll be overtaken by events.


113 posted on 11/14/2008 11:01:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: demshateGod

You won’t be laughing much if the whip comes down. Expect the best, but prepare for the worst.


114 posted on 11/14/2008 11:02:39 AM PST by BobS
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To: Zevonismymuse

....i like where my family is located for even a worst case scenario. I’m glad we do not live near any cities. We also have plenty of natural resources and because of the rural flavor of this town, most of us are armed to the teeth...

same here. Fish, hunt, garden.


115 posted on 11/14/2008 11:02:39 AM PST by bella1 (Remember; it took four years of Carter to give us eight years of Reagan.)
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To: G.Mason
Bricks of Gold......

Considering "a brick of gold" would probably weigh close to 1000 oz @ 700.00/oz that would equal $700,000.00/brick. Mentioning buying bricks "plural" (more than one.... your now at 1.4 million dollars .... my question is how does a single mom and a vegetarian get this kind of money to buy "bricks" of gold???

116 posted on 11/14/2008 11:03:48 AM PST by PEACE ENFORCER (One Needs to Have the Capability of Using Deadly Force at Any Moment.....:))
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To: Joan Kerrey

Hey I used to laugh at her as well, she doesnt own a refridgerator and lives in rented apartment and doesnt belive in western medicine (refues to buy healthcare - goes to herb shops for holistic healing) but she buys gold and silver! Now I’m thinking she has invested wisely.


117 posted on 11/14/2008 11:04:15 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER

OK Enough already! I used the term “bricks” because as I said before I dont know how you buy gold except for coins...All I know is she has been buying it for a few years now.


118 posted on 11/14/2008 11:05:50 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: demshateGod; MrB
Our new national motto:

WANT PIE NOW!

119 posted on 11/14/2008 11:07:39 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: Dr. Marten
"We’re going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It’s going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It’s going to come as a shock and with it, there’s going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people’s minds weren’t wrecked on all these modern drugs – over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybody’s comprehension."

I think he's right about the starvation thing too. This can be avoided - but I don't see it happening...

120 posted on 11/14/2008 11:07:42 AM PST by GOPJ (Election Day... liberals who had spent years praising McCain all voted for Obama - Coulter)
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