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Still NO birth certificate? (Scorecard)
America Must Know ^

Posted on 11/12/2008 4:41:05 PM PST by Smokeyblue

The United States Constitution

The Constitution of the United States of America specifies that the President of the United States must be a 'natural born' citizen. Barak Obama has NOT produced a certified copy of his ORIGINAL 1961 birth certificate that was prepared at the time of birth.

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An Abstract? All he has produced is a laser printed ABSTRACT that was printed out on June 6, 2007. This abstract is just a summary of what Hawaii has on their computers. There is MORE information relevant to the matter on the ORIGINAL 1961 long form birth certificate.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arrogance; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; certigate; colb; narcisism; obama; obamagate; supremecourt; tyrants
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To: screaming eagle2

George Bush was in the U.S. Military and last I looked they require a birth certificate. Ditto McCain. All prioer Pres candidates were open books and we knew a lot. Obama has everything selaed. Why? What is he hiding?


61 posted on 11/13/2008 7:45:09 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Gemsbok; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Thanks, Gemsbok.

Ping.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2131097/posts?page=59#59

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2131097/posts?page=3#3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2131097/posts?page=57#57


62 posted on 11/13/2008 8:29:09 AM PST by LucyT (................. Don't go wobbly now.................)
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To: All
polarik morphBarack Hussein Obama and Malcolm X Like Father Like Son?
The X's and O's





63 posted on 11/13/2008 8:35:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Do we trust 0W0N$PENDALOT, Pelo$i, Barnie, Dodd & Reid to leave our 401k's/IRA's alone?)
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To: I_Like_Spam
>>>To get that credential , he had to show his birth certificate or other satisfactory evidence of citizenship.

>>>or other satisfactory evidence of citizenship.<<<

That would have been a Letter of No Record if he received a passport before holding office. Those documents don't prove citizenship:


64 posted on 11/13/2008 8:36:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: DJ MacWoW; plain talk
Barack Nate Dhalani
65 posted on 11/13/2008 8:40:27 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: plain talk
Neither did George W. Bush and 42 previous Presidents

We have never had a Muslim run for president of the United States before. According to Muslims " Once a Muslim always a Muslim". In this cast there should be an ABSOLUTE reason to produce a proof of eligibility. The constitution added this rule so not to elect a prez that has bias towards another country, especially one that houses a religion that wants us dead.

66 posted on 11/13/2008 8:49:44 AM PST by jetson
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To: HighlyOpinionated

If his passport has a different name, then no one named ‘Barack Obama’ was elected to office. Legal names have to be on the election ballot.


67 posted on 11/13/2008 8:53:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: screaming eagle2

>>>George w bush had to produce one somewhere during his adult life.

Yes, he was in the Guard.

Bump


68 posted on 11/13/2008 8:54:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: cripplecreek
Actually that isn't true. Until very recently there was a loophole that allowed someone to vouch for another in cases where there were no records. It was in a thread earlier today, I'll track it down and ping you to the post.

According to Phil Berg he could have been traveling on a Kenyan passport and was issued a US when he became a senator. This stuff is all sealed.

69 posted on 11/13/2008 8:55:33 AM PST by jetson
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To: Drew68
And if there was any legitimacy to the issue, Hillary with her millions of dollars and army of investigators at her disposal would have crushed Obama over it. If there was one thing the Clintons were good at, it was finding dirt on their enemies. They just happened to overlook that Hillary's most formidable opponent might not be a native born citizen? I'm not buying it and neither is anyone else save for a small handful of conspiracy theorists on the internet.

The Clintons ( especially the first black president) aren't going to be involved in starting race riots. They would'nt go near this with a ten foot pole. She may be working behind the lines now though now that she is getting snubbed.

70 posted on 11/13/2008 9:00:45 AM PST by jetson
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To: I_Like_Spam
Mr. Obama has a United States passport.

Do you know that for a fact? Speculation has been that his recent foreign travel is on a diplomatic passport.

71 posted on 11/13/2008 9:16:03 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Drew68
Instead of chasing this "USSC will disqualify Obama and make McCain the president" pipe dream, maybe we need to clean our own house, figure out what went wrong, correct it and win future elections by offering a better alternative.

Well great. Get busy figgerin'. Be sure to post your vanity here on how to fix the GOP and win elections. Be sure to ping everyone, because the other 433 vanities on the subject here will surely be deficient compared to yours. In fact, I'm sure that your solutions will be superior to the 826 pundit articles that have been posted here as well.

We impatiently await...

72 posted on 11/13/2008 9:20:54 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
My question would be how are they going to fix it when what is broken is the system and we have people who can't even recognize that fact. If one doesn't see the problem, they can't fix it.

I see the problem as unvetted candidates and vote fraud.

73 posted on 11/13/2008 9:32:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Grampa Dave

Wow, I didn’t know Barack Obama used to wear glasses.

Does he wear contacts or did he have lasik eye correction?
I’m glad he uses Grecian hair formula to stay looking young!


74 posted on 11/13/2008 10:01:46 AM PST by Gemsbok (Will the real Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, Barack J. Obama, Barack Husein Obama...please stand up?)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; Gemsbok; jetson; Calpernia; ml/nj; I_Like_Spam
Putin knows something about Obama and his dodgy poassports. Remember this? -------------- http://www.bellona.no/bellona.org/english_import_area/international/russia/nuke_industry/co-operation/39511

Lugar delegation detained for three hours in Perm after inspecting nuke weapons facility

A US delegation headed by Republican Senator Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was detained Sunday for three hours at an airport in the Siberian city of Perm, Russia before being allowed to leave the country for Ukraine in a diplomatically chaotic incident Sunday.

US officials were nonetheless anxious to downplay the incident ...

Lugar, Senator Barack Obama—the junior Democratic Illinois Senator also of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—as well as the rest of the US delegation, who are on a weeklong nuclear disarmament tour among former Soviet states, spent several hours at a weapons destruction site outside Perm before returning to the city airport, officials from the US Embassy in Moscow told Bellona Web Monday.

The delegation was in Russia as part of a week-long tour of major weapons facilities in former Soviet republics, where U.S. funds are being used to secure or destroy nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Russia recently agreed to open sensitive sites to U.S. inspection, a development that Lugar heralded at a news conference Friday in Moscow.

The 41-year old Obama, having won one of Illinois’ two Senatorial seats in 2005, is seen by many on Capitol Hill as heir-apparent to many of the non-proliferation concerns spearheaded by Lugar.

Neither Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the Federal Agency for Atomic Energy (Rosatom) had any comment on the brief detention of the high-ranking US officials

The specifics of the delay

When the US delegation attempted to board their plane, local Russian border officials stepped in and demanded to search the American aircraft before takeoff. International law, however, protects the US military plane from searches, which lead to a stand-off between customs officials and the group.

American officials, citing a US-Russian agreement that does not allow such inspections, refused to allow the search of the plane, leading to the three-hour delay, according to Andy Fisher, a spokesman for Lugar who is on the trip.

Fisher said in a statement that the group was treated "just fine," although members were held in an uncomfortably stuffy room adjacent to the tarmac and allowed out onto an adjoining porch area only after they surrendered their passports.

75 posted on 11/13/2008 11:13:30 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; Gemsbok; jetson; Calpernia; ml/nj; I_Like_Spam
Putin knows something about Obama and his dodgy passports. Remember this? -------------- http://www.bellona.no/bellona.org/english_import_area/international/russia/nuke_industry/co-operation/39511

Lugar delegation detained for three hours in Perm after inspecting nuke weapons facility

A US delegation headed by Republican Senator Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was detained Sunday for three hours at an airport in the Siberian city of Perm, Russia before being allowed to leave the country for Ukraine in a diplomatically chaotic incident Sunday.

US officials were nonetheless anxious to downplay the incident ...

Lugar, Senator Barack Obama—the junior Democratic Illinois Senator also of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—as well as the rest of the US delegation, who are on a weeklong nuclear disarmament tour among former Soviet states, spent several hours at a weapons destruction site outside Perm before returning to the city airport, officials from the US Embassy in Moscow told Bellona Web Monday.

The delegation was in Russia as part of a week-long tour of major weapons facilities in former Soviet republics, where U.S. funds are being used to secure or destroy nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Russia recently agreed to open sensitive sites to U.S. inspection, a development that Lugar heralded at a news conference Friday in Moscow.

The 41-year old Obama, having won one of Illinois’ two Senatorial seats in 2005, is seen by many on Capitol Hill as heir-apparent to many of the non-proliferation concerns spearheaded by Lugar.

Neither Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the Federal Agency for Atomic Energy (Rosatom) had any comment on the brief detention of the high-ranking US officials

The specifics of the delay

When the US delegation attempted to board their plane, local Russian border officials stepped in and demanded to search the American aircraft before takeoff. International law, however, protects the US military plane from searches, which lead to a stand-off between customs officials and the group.

American officials, citing a US-Russian agreement that does not allow such inspections, refused to allow the search of the plane, leading to the three-hour delay, according to Andy Fisher, a spokesman for Lugar who is on the trip.

Fisher said in a statement that the group was treated "just fine," although members were held in an uncomfortably stuffy room adjacent to the tarmac and allowed out onto an adjoining porch area only after they surrendered their passports.

76 posted on 11/13/2008 11:16:27 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Smokeyblue

A fraudulent abstract, to boot.


77 posted on 11/13/2008 12:42:14 PM PST by Polarik
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To: LucyT
As I have revisited everything that Factcheck has done since they released their copy of the Obama COLB image forgery, followed by their phony photos, I am dumbstruck by all that they have done. Here's a preview of my summary in Part Two (it still needs to be made less technical for mass consumption).

Factcheck did more than simply "quell speculative charges" that Obama is not a natural-born US citizen -- they actively and deliberately sought to squelch any legitimate dialogue, whatsoever, about the fact that Obama has never proven to anyone that he is a natural-born citizen, that Obama has never shown his original birth certificate to anyone, and that Obama still steadfastly refuses to show it, knowing full-well, that in doing so, it would prevent him from ever becoming President, despite the demands of the Constitution and the will of the American people.

What Factcheck did was patently fraudulent, and anyone who is, or was, a part of this con game, who knowingly contributed to keeping this charade going, either actively or passively, is also guilty of fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. In short, people who, by their overt actions to prevent or discredit others from conducting any legitimate investigations into Obama's past, have been indirectly complicit in what has always been a bonafide conspiracy, not only to conceal Obama's true origin and identity, but also to defraud the American public and disenfranchise the American voter, by convincing them that they had iron-clad evidence proving that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961, and was therefore eligible to serve as President of the United States.

To the Obama Campaign, who still claims that all of the efforts made to uncover the truth about Obama's birth certificate have "never been about a piece of paper," I say, "Oh, yes it was, and still is about a piece of paper - the Constitution of the United States of America.

78 posted on 11/13/2008 1:07:57 PM PST by Polarik
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To: patriot08

That is exactly what I have said many times. All previous 43 Presidents had known family histories. It wass never an issue before. This is precisely why there is no process to force Obama to do anything in this regard and he won’t have to. To those who find this incredible - join the club. The electoral Congress is full of dems. Congress is full of dems. Nothing will happen.


79 posted on 11/13/2008 4:26:37 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Calpernia; LucyT; Polarik
Isn't there a video of Obama and an interviewer somewhere in which the interviewer had to correct Obama as to his faith?

Unhappily, everything put forth by Obama and his campaign is fraudulent, insubstantial and incredulous. I was trying to remember the term that under Sharia law allows for deception and found this little article on Taqiyya
80 posted on 11/13/2008 6:12:08 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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