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Why the Republicans Lost
North Star Writers Group ^ | November 10, 2008 | Gregory D. Lee

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:27 AM PST by Invisigoth

Contrary to popular belief, Barack Obama didn’t win a historic presidential election, the Republicans lost one.

What do you expect when the Republican candidate was the most liberal of the pack to run during the presidential primaries? The choice the voters had during the general election was to vote for a liberal or vote for a far-left-wing liberal. There wasn’t a conservative Republican on the ballot for president.

Several years ago, John McCain seriously considered switching parties. Isn’t that a clue about his political leanings? He seriously considered being John Kerry’s running mate in 2004, and his first choice for his vice-presidential running mate was Joe Lieberman, a former Democrat who turned Independent when he got screwed over by the Democratic National Committee.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: defeat; election; mcccain; republicans; rino

1 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:28 AM PST by Invisigoth
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To: Invisigoth
2008 : Globe Trotters vs. the Generals

For a moment we thought there was a real game on ...
2 posted on 11/10/2008 7:31:54 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Invisigoth

R’s lost for multiple reasons. I’m quite surprised how the nationwide admitted fraud has immediately vanished as a factor.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 7:33:23 AM PST by allmost
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To: Invisigoth
What do you expect when the Republican candidate was the most liberal of the pack to run during the presidential primaries?

McCain had one issue during the primaries: the surge, which he supported, worked.

When he got the the general, he couldn't get a handle on anything else to run on, and Iraq was basically done, so it wasn't even an issue.

McCain stumbled around, trying to find some issues. He even switched a few of his previous positions. But McCain lacked a convincing, defined message to the voters. So, Obama easily painted him as just a Washington insider extention of the Bush Administration.
4 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:01 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Invisigoth
Missouri - Still the Bell Weather State.

John McCain took Missouri for one reason alone- Sarah Palin.

The GOP Gubernatorial candidate, at the same time, got his clock cleaned? How can this be? He is a Congressman and a DC insider.

The lesson is that reformed Conservatism is a winner.

5 posted on 11/10/2008 7:39:19 AM PST by 11th Commandment (General Secretary Barak Obama)
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To: Invisigoth

I still have no clue what McCain’s message was supposed to be. Seemed like he never found one.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 7:39:58 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: Invisigoth

Not a conservative, too old.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 7:42:26 AM PST by truebluetexan
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To: Invisigoth

As a reminder we all know what happened.

After supporting illegal’s and ‘fine gold’, and other dimwitted legislation there were too many conservatives that don’t trust McLame.

Those moves seemed like catering to the left for political gain.

We all knew this before he got the nod.

And most of us an FR knew he couldn’t win as a result.

Obama I think actually helped us more than a more moderate candidate but there was no way for conservatives to trust McLame again.

Boy were we ever RIGHT ABOUT THIS ONE.

Him jumping on the bailout reminded us why we didn’t like McLame in the first place. He is a ‘Big Government” Republican.


8 posted on 11/10/2008 7:47:51 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Invisigoth

Bologan...we lost because the nation was tired. Simple as that. This was not a referendum on Republicans or Conservatives.

Most are not informed on the issues...hell...something like 40% of adults don’t even pay any income taxes...they don’t care...they don’t read, they are not informed...they just want “hope”.

So that’s what they elected.

And now it’s my “hope” that we can stop the “basta*d in his tracks.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 7:56:53 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: Invisigoth

“The choice the voters had during the general election was to vote for a liberal or vote for a far-left-wing liberal. There wasn’t a conservative Republican on the ballot for president.”
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Pretty well sums it up.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 7:57:53 AM PST by cowdog77 ("Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: allmost
I’m quite surprised how the nationwide admitted fraud has immediately vanished as a factor.

Ever since Ronald Reagan's historic victories, stories of massive Democratic fraud have surfaced during the National elections. These stories of %105 percent voter turnout, busloads of "electors" showing up at key polling stations, falsified voter registrations including the names of cartoon characters, dead voters showing up to cast their ballots, have, with other egregious stories, all been reported in the past. County and State officials, most often Democrat senechals, receive the evidence of these criminal acts, and they ALWAYS languish and fade from the spotlight.

Only a handful of these cases are ever prosecuted and criminal activity found. A slap on the wrist, usually a promise squeezed from the perp organization not to do it again, and a score of votes invalidated are normal results.

These activities are so widespread that Democrat committees usually howl with indignation when their pet candidate or referendum is defeated when they know full well that their massive fix was a cinch for victory.

11 posted on 11/10/2008 8:08:23 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Invisigoth
Most people saw zero progress with topics such as the energy bill between Repubs and Dims. McCain had lots of good plans, none of which would ever see the light of day. The next four years would have been just as stagnant as the last.
12 posted on 11/10/2008 8:22:34 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Invisigoth

This is total garbage.

It doesn’t matter if Obama had been running against Spongebob, Americans chose a Marxist over the alternative.

ANY Republican should have beaten Obama, had Americans truly been willing to resist the siren call of the welfare state.

It is delusional to think if we just had the right candidate, who said all the right things, then he or she would magically get elected.

Americans chose a Marxist. If that’s what they want, or a willing to risk to somehow feel good about their vote, NO Republican, of any stripe, could have dissuaded them from that pursuit. The American people are without excuse. This one is 100% on them.

The knew, or had the opportunity to know, what Obama is about and they voted for him anyway. That is all.


13 posted on 11/10/2008 8:23:57 AM PST by fightinJAG (Who needs the Fairness Doctrine? Obama admits the power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: DemonDeac

Why difference does that make in the end? Is that a reason for millions of people to vote for an avowed Marxist?

No.

McCain and Palin did an excellent job even staying in the game as well as they did under all the circumstances.

Even one of the multitude of disconcerting and disturbing facts about Obama should have been enough to put the other guy, whoever it was, over the top.

There is no excuse for voting for a Marxist, no matter who he was running against from today’s Republic party.


14 posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:12 AM PST by fightinJAG (Who needs the Fairness Doctrine? Obama admits the power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Are you saying that the vast majority of Republicans and/or conservatives did not vote for McCain?

Because they are the only people who, maybe, gave a rat’s behind about any of the issues you bring up.

And even those concerned about the things you mentioned voted for McCain, if only to try to defeat Obama.

So the fact is that the people who actually voted for Obama had zero knowledge or care about any of the supposedly “politically capital crimes” done by McCain. They simply liked Obama and the idea of Obama.

There may have been some holdouts here on FR who hated McCain so much they couldn’t bring themselves to lift a finger to defeat the Marxist running against him, but the vast, vast majority of votes did not vote on any particular issue.

That’s why you see voters in California voting against gay marriage, but also voting for Obama, who will be the most radical president ever re such issues.


15 posted on 11/10/2008 8:32:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (Who needs the Fairness Doctrine? Obama admits the power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: cowdog77
There wasn’t a conservative Republican on the ballot for president.”

SO WHAT?

There was a MARXIST on the ballot. Is that chopped liver?

I'm sick of people who look at their vote as something that:

(1) pertains only to showing some type of personal approval of the guy whose name is on the ticket (never mind the thousands of people from his party that will be put into positions of power in Washington if he wins), and

(2) must make them "feel good" when they pull the lever, as opposed to thinking about how their vote, or refusal to vote, or refusal to vote to DEFEAT a candidate, will affect how the country will be governed for at least the next four years.

ANY Republican should have defeated Obama because Americans should have refused to vote for a Marxist. They are without excuse.

16 posted on 11/10/2008 8:38:42 AM PST by fightinJAG (Who needs the Fairness Doctrine? Obama admits the power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: fightinJAG

Yeah a lot of them stayed home, which explains the lower than expected voter turnout.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 12:59:56 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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