SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 (Unconfirmed, see thread research)

Atlas Shrugs ^

[mnehring]

Come on Joe, stand up...lol...

[ctdonath2]

Did I SAY that? NO.

I said “abide by the rules, or have them enforced.”

The rules are: only natural-born citizens may become POTUS, and rioting is prohibited.

Violate those rules, and the subsequent loud metallic noise will be a million bolts closing on loaded chambers, prepared to enforce the rules.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Hey You!,,,

Lurk mode here,,,(prone to cussin’)...;0)

[arrogantsob]

All that is fine but has no bearing on the Constitutional issue. Presumably states could refused to certify the vote of rogue Electors but that would not stop the activities required by the Constitution and federal law.

Advisory laws, expectations, pledges or hopes have no bearing on fact that the US Constitution says nothing about how Electors will/must vote only that States can appoint them any way they wish.

Electors are elected by the popular vote but after that they are not under any other control. A state could presumably remove them but there is no mechanism to replace them since state laws have them elected by the popular vote.
It would be a nightmare particularly if there were parties controlling the legislature which differ from the party of the elected electors.

[PghBaldy]

Rush is like many who believe the Dems are all-knowing (esp Hillary). It is bewildering to me the power people see in the Dems. Bush is in charge now. I have heard many say if there was anything to this, Hillary would have mentioned it. She hasn’t been first lady for 8 years, and Obama was a nothing then.

[ctdonath2]

All Obama has to do is show the Chief Justice the original birth certificate. Nothing need be released to the public.

[Conservative Capitalist]

Yes I do realize that Obama is a citizen. There is no question about that. The issue arises as to whether he is of natural-born status as required by the Constitution. Which if one of his parents is an alien then he is not granted natural born status per the Act of 1790. And since there is no other law regarding natural born status this is where the issue arises.

[mnehring]

Not to mention all the FBI files...

[PghBaldy]

Where in the Const. does it say HOW this can be addressed? I’m afraid the FF were naive in thinking we would remain a moral nation, with only honest men running. There is no process for determination when there is a question, unlike impeachment, which is clearly spelled out.

[hoosiermama]

Any document (BC) is “sealed” protected when used as evidence in a court preceeding. Since Davis filed his FofI suit the day before BO arrived, I’m prone to think that is why we got all the information on the net that it was “sealed”.

[shield]

WOW.......if he does not produce it...the electoral college will disqualify him. They have already said...by December 1st, 2008. If he is disqualified...his campaign along with Biden are also disqualified...and it would then fall to McCain.

[spokeshave]

"I also believe that Obama was supposed to or wanted to lose so that a bloody revolution could be started in Chicago and DC. He was quite surprised when he won and was deflated at his rally there and the crowd that was supposed to rush the White House at around midnight, (complete with Communist flags) fizzled as well.

I'm totally convinced you are correct!

Sounds like the Odinga gambit.....machetes, tire necklaces and church burnings.

I wonder if 0bambi signed any shira accords like Odinga....?

[mnehring]

Keep reading, the original post at Atlas Shrugged may not be true.. also, I think the consensus is Biden would get it.. Frankly, we haven’t been down this potential road before so we are all guessing at what would happen IF true.

[DJ MacWoW]

He won:

Alabama-9
California-55
Colorado-9
Connecticut-7
DC-3
Florida-27
Hawaii-4
Maine-4
Maryland-10
Massachusetts-12
Michigan-17
Mississippi-6
Nevada-5
New Mexico-5
North Carolina-15
Ohio-20
Oregon-7
Vermont-3
Virginia-13
Washington-11
Wisconsin-10

272 electoral votes

[Intolerant in NJ]

According to lawyers on an earlier thread there would be no damage, therefore no standing, before the election...interesting - it seems there were questions about McCain's citizenship and qualification to serve as Prez because he was born in Panama - having nothing to hide because he was born on a military base and thus qualified, McCain apparently produced the required documentation and the questions resolved - if this was a legitimate issue for McCain, it certainly would seem to be one that Obama should be required to answer, and the fact that he's stonewalling certainly should raise a red flag for any fair-minded citizen.......

[mnehring]

Oh well, that was pretty close call.. so electors going rogue over pending action wouldn’t change it..

[DJ MacWoW]

Sorry but these laws passed muster.

[Fred Nerks]

he would have had to promise something in return for all that money he received from the middle east, I imagine...but he didn’t need to make a written agreement with the muslims like odinga did in Kenya...he surrounded himself with muslims and arabs in the US in plain sight.

[mnehring]

Help me out.. in one of the responses to these lawsuits, didn’t one of Obama’s lawyers say there was something ‘embarrassing’ in the Birth Certificate which is why they aren’t releasing it? Clever lawyer excuse?

[DJ MacWoW]

There are laws and penalties for faithless electors.