Posted on 11/04/2008 1:55:06 AM PST by Stingray
Yes, I'm afraid after all the hope poured out onto these pages, John McCain will lose. There are at least two very important reasons for this (and they have nothing to do with media bias).
The first is - simply put - that McCain ran a lousy campaign. There was no focus on any one particular message that resounded with voters until Joe The Plumber came along (too little too late?) despite the fact that Obama's own voting record in the Senate said at least as much about his plans to "tax and spend" this country into bankruptcy faster than any president before him!
Why McCain was so hesitant to call Obama out on his liberal views is simple: McCain shares many of them! McCain believes - like Gore and Obama - that unless we do something about co2 pollution, we're doomed to suffer the ravages of global warming! In fact, McCain has often stated the need for tighter legislation aimed at curbing greenhouse gases, and has voted for those that have come before the Senate! Nevermind the fact that anthropogenic global warming is "junk science", McCain has bought into it and that is just one area where his "Maverick" stance in the Senate has actually put him on the side of the most liberal senator there is!
There are other issues that were taken out of the McCain playbook because of his record and past indiscretions in the Senate. Can't raise Obama's associations with Wright, Ayers, Khalidi et al without having to defend himself from his disastrous association with Charles Keating. Is it any wonder McCain didn't want to touch Obama's associations with a ten-foot pole?
McCain can't bash Obama for wanting to "bankrupt" coal companies, when his own plan to convert the country to natural gas (for the same green purposes as Obama) would've had roughly the same effect! Yet another issue taken off McCain's plate.
And how can you decry Obama's "socialism" when they both voted for the biggest socialist bailout of investment banks the world has ever seen? McCain's vote for socialism at that level is no less aggregious than Obama's desire to "spread the wealth", and is especially vexing in light of the fact that the bailout legislation doesn't solve the underlying causes of the latest finacial meltdown in the first place!
So you can't attack Obama for being "green", for his past associations, and for his socialism because of McCain's "glass house" record on these issues.
So what's left?
Let's see: you start to make promises to the American people that make Obama's sound downright fiscally conservative! In a race to see who could give away more of the store, McCain and Obama were running neck-and-neck. Remember McCain's promise to tap 300 billion dollars of the bailout money to help homeowners stave off foreclosure??? Obama had been promising something similar for weeks ahead of McCain finally chiming in on the great taxpayer gravy train!
Tax cuts? Both were promising them. I cringed whenver I heard McCain start to talk like a fiscal policy wonk. It literally made me change the channel!
And please, John, the fundamentals of the economy were NOT sound when you made such a ridiculous statement at a time when foreclosures and bank failures were starting to mount! How can anyone seriously criticize Obama and Biden for their gaffes, when McCain provided the greatest bulleting board material of all time?
To this day, McCain continues to resort to the only trump card he has: his military service. While not enough can be said about his sacrifice for this country, most people - who just want to see us get out of Iraq and Afghanistan - don't want to see the same things, or worse, happen to their kids or friends. His greatest positive was a reminder to people of the brutality of war and why - depsite the fact he's the best qualified to be Commander-in-Chief - they don't want to be in one.
The second reason is, simply put, most Americans want change and feel - somehow - that Obama is the best one to bring about that change. Nevermind that "change" is a word completely devoid of any meaning without context, people want it. Obama's use of the word in making it the cornerstone of his campaign simply illustrates - again - how he was able to tap into this desire and play it consistently for all it was worth. McCain never had anything remotely resembling a message like this he could stick to through this campaign.
On a closing, personal note, I find two of the McCain campaign's most glaring errors revolved around their public announcement to pull out of Michigan, and the way they fed Sarah Palin to the wolves (the Couric and Gibson interviews).
On Michigan: even if you can't justify the expense of making another trip to the state, you have to keep in mind that you have coattails upon which other candidates are riding. The worst thing to do is tell the press you're pulling out of a state like Michigan weeks before the election! Pull out if you must, but keep your freaking mouth shut about it! McCain's decision to pull out early, and announce it to the world, has screwed a number of GOP congressional candidates, leaving them to fend for themselves, where they are being outspent by a large margin!
On Palin: the biggest mistake the campaign made in letting her do those post-convention interviews was that she simply was not ready for the kind of sleezy "gotcha!" questions she would have to field from people who were clearly in Obama's back pocket! They were going to go for the throat on her (never intending to ask Obama what qualified him to be president!). The final insult of those interviews was to reduce her to a punchline on Saturday Night Live, a show which mercilessly lampooned her even when she was there! She was clearly not ready for the kind of campaigns on the national stage that gets run down here in the lower 48, and it showed. She could've been a tremendous asset if handled properly. Instead, she became a national joke, undeserving as it was. I blame the McCain campaign for that.
So gear up for 2012 all. We're simply going to have to field a much better candidate then.
+1
There will be plenty of time to arm chair quarterback this thing on the 5th, till then....STFU
wait, you mean Stingray’s opinion means so much to sway voter turnout. Dang Stingray you should get a show or something
Yeah it’s a new reality show called “Whine and Cheese”
No, but it doesn't help does it? His post and posts similar to his....they add up. That's why it is important to discourage such discouraging posts at such a crucial time as this.
Well put. Hard to believe this Stingray is a 10 year Freeper. Figured, he would have learned something by now.
well I hope tomorrow we are discussing ways to mold mccain into a conservative or forcing him to resign. please guys dont rubberstamp everything he puts out and say, well he is our guy and he is no obama...no shirt sherlock.
But you should consider a couple of factors: conservative democrats who deserve our support to hold off the worst of the Obama legislation, and 2010, not 2012.
Get real. Freepers will vote 97 to 3 for McCain and Ron Paul and are not the least bit of a factor in this election.
The first thing they have to do is marginalize the opposition by making them appear deranged and unhinged. You are playing right into their hands.
Don't be silly. Realism and determination to win are not mutually exclusive. It is likely that we will lose (at least here in VA) but that is not going to stop me or anyone else from voting. I just sent a last minute donation to Gilmore who is certainly going to lose. But let's at least be realistic, we have the media, ACORN, and a million brainwashed and angry voters (again my observations here in VA) against us.
Time to stop talking trash. Just vote.
watching NBC they are talking about his poll numbers , they said that people might have lied to the pollsters, dont want them to know they wont vote for a Black man. so why is nbc throwing in the towel :p
fixed it.
I’m not so sure that this so-called realism will not stop some people from going to the polls. Yes a large majority will go out and vote regardless, but even if only a small minority succumb to the spin that could be enough to put Obama over the top in some of the battleground states.
Yesterday, in fact, a FReeper wrote that his conservative friend at work said something to the effect of “why should i bother voting? Obama’s got it in the bag!”
But hopefully a lot of Obama supporters are thinking the same way.
If McCain wins, then a lot of sham donors, including those overseas, *will* have lost money betting against the intelligence of the American public.
Cheers!
No, because the PROSECUTOR in the Keating case said McCain didn't do anything wrong.
McCain was included to give a fig leaf for the Democrats who *were* guilty.
Nice try, though.
Cheers!
Your reply continues to prove my point that your argument is stupid, ignorant, ill-timed, inflammatory, absurd on it’s face, laughable and a servant of evil.
And I’ll add: naive, supercilious, and sophomoric.
“That’s why it is important to discourage such discouraging posts at such a crucial time as this.”
Not only proving my point about some Freepers lacking absolutely any perspective at all in their ability to affect outcomes (you think the world revolves around what’s posted here???), but trying to squelch free speech simply because you don’t like the message.
Nice.
BTW, I voted straight Republican ticket, because there are some true conservatives worth keeping in office.
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