Posted on 11/02/2008 12:54:15 PM PST by farmer18th
It was an interesting morning at the church where I was interpreting. The Pastor was giving his homily, and the associate was outside in the parking lot “getting in the faces” of the Obamabots that were placing flyers under our wipers. As everyone was leaving we saw a stack of the flyers under his arm (soon to be thrown in the dumpster)!
My pastor talked about the rise of the Antichrist. (Not naming any names.)
Major pro life sermon this morning.
Last week, Pastor prefaced his sermon with, “First, remember that whatever happens on Election Day is God’s will.”
Then, “Who would Jesus vote for?” Since our congregation is pro life and pro traditional marriage, he didn’t really need to preach on the subject. He never endorsed a candidate by name; didn’t need to. (That’s illegal, except for dems in black churchs, dontchaknow?)
I also like pastors who are man enough to take a stand. Ours has been vilified in the community for his strong stand against homosexuality — very persecuted. Not only should pastors get involved in politics; they MUST. I’d leave a church if the pastor were wishy-washy during election periods. Ethics, character, morals, and politics can’t be separated.
What are you talking about? I’m still trying to figure out how you’re equating what he said to full-blown support of Obama (or is it Nazism?). I’m getting the impression that you’re one of the folks he was talking about. Go out, vote, and go home. If it’s that huge a deal to you, volunteer for McCain’s campaign, pound the pavement, make phone calls, donate cash. Calling a good man of God a “Nazi” is not winning the election.
I've read this week that actually not a single church has lost the non-profit status. But let's assume the worst and that our church loses the status. Should we be sorry? Honestly, if a pastor will not preach because of fear of the IRS, he is putting money ahead of God. And Jesus made it very clear that we cannot serve 2 masters (Matt. 6:24). So, should we be sorry then? Jesus gave us the answer to that also: "Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because your reward in heaven is great! (Lu. 6:23).
Praise be.
That’s not true... not one church has lost its non-profit status from speaking about political issues or politics from the pulpit. Its done all the time in many black churches across america.
Great job! Our congregation is Spanish-speaking, so most probably won’t be voting, but those who can were lectured very firmly by our ministry coordinator, who describes herself as “violently Republican.” (I think that’s a figure of speech, since she’s in her 70’s.)
Our pastor doesn’t speak Spanish, so the deacon always gives the sermon, and he stuck firmly to the texts of the day.
You don’t get it. Your vote has to become a SPIRITUAL issue. Activists who are belittled by hirelings like the one you have in your pulpit are kept marginalized by cowards in ministerial robes. I wouldn’t want to worship next to someone who voted for Obama. I wouldn’t want my kids in the same Sunday School class. It’s not just a phone-bank issue. It’s a Lord-of-your-life issue.
Yes but black churches are allowed to endorse..ala Rev. Wright! It’s just like the black colleges we have here in NC. No one accuses them of racism.
From today’s Old Testament Reading: “The seers will be ashamed And the diviners will be embarrassed.”
Wow, only took 3 posts to bring out the Nazi reference. Amazing speed. Good work ;-)
You remind me of a right-wing version of my leftist FIL who lost 5 nights of sleep after Palin was nominated. Churches are not meant to be used as political stumps. You denounce what Wright said in his church and demand others do the same thing as long as they’re in line with your views. It doesn’t matter what you or I want. God’s plan is all that matters. My church held a prayer session open to all that the godless would be kept out of and removed from power. That’s a wise thing to pray for, b/c men and their plans are fallible. God is not. I’ll stick with him over any politician.
I did to my Bible Study class...
People who don’t want to use the acid-test of evil, Nazism, are usually apologizing for evil.
In spite of being in a very conservative area and mostly white, a relatively large portion of our church family is black as compared to other churches in our area. As I looked around during the service, they were all "Amening" with the rest of us.
There is good and there is evil. Reverend Wright IS evil. What you want to worship is the great neutral-nothing-center. You know what Christ said about the lukewarm? Remember?
There is no virtue in seeking some sort of calm, middle-ground way to remain “calm” about abortion, sodomites and socialists. The fact is your FIL friend is evil. Don’t make the mistake of concluding that because she is passionately evil doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be passionately seeking goodness.
Today my pastor said we have a choice to vote for someone with the potential to lead us to a stronger Judeo-Christian nation or someone with the potential to take us in the exact opposite direction and the person we elect will likely change the makeup of the Supreme Court and if it becomes liberal it could make rulings that are contrary to God’s word.
He said the scriptures are the infallible rule of faith and practice, the authoritative guide for Christian living. He then singled out two critical issues — same sex marriage and abortion. Read from Genesis 1:27-28 & 2:24. He went then to Genesis 19:3-7 and spoke against homosexuality and turned to Leviticus 18:1 and 22-25.
He discussed the 1996 (DOMA) as it defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman for purposes of all federal laws, etc. Said McCain supports DOMA and Obama calls for repeal of DOMA. Then Jeremiah 32:35. Then Psalms 139:1, 13-16.
Spoke on partial birth abortion issue. Ended with saying we are about to elect a leader one who will say to the workd that we are a pagan nation and the other will show our Christian values are as strong as ever. Said the issues discussed are blatantly biblical. Christians need to vote with the Bible as the guide.
I have his sermon notes if anyone wants them.
As I recall, He was speaking about faith in God to handle things, not zeal for a political party.
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