Posted on 10/28/2008 11:53:06 AM PDT by Victory111
In response to increasing efforts by local market journalists to ask the questions the national media refuse to ask, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are growing furious at news reporters who have the audacity to label Obama’s socialist “wealth redistribution” campaign as “socialism”…
Obama and Biden’s entire campaign is based upon government confiscation and re-distribution of private earned wealth, -“over-taxing those according to their ability; and redistributing confiscated wealth according to politically motivated deceptions of need…”
Karl Marx, the father of “SOCIALISM” explained exactly what socialism is…
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need.”
(Excerpt) Read more at crossactionnews.com ...
I prefer Robert Nozick’s creed (answering Marx): “From each as he chooses, to each as he is chosen”.
Duh...
Over 20 million dead under Stalin...
Speaks volumes when you put it like that...
The liberals I know think Socialism is Bush’s bailout plan. It doesn’t apply to 0.
>Obama Supporters Never Heard of Socialism?<
They never heard of lies and deception either because they practice these “virtues”, constantly.
Buy ammo.
The trouble for conservatives is, I think the word “socialism” is losing its “juice” with the American public. Folks are less and less afraid of the word, maybe because it’s been used to describe liberal policies quite often _without explaining further why that is objectionable._
So, increasingly, when conservatives talk about programs being “socialist,” mainstream Americans are increasingly likely to say, “you say that about everything,” or to simply not be clear on why that’s inherently a bad thing. (And it’s certainly become tougher to talk about why these are objectionable when the Republican administration is leading the charge in the largest government intervention in our history!)
Conservatives need to start explaining more deeply why they believe big-government social welfare programs are a bad idea, instead of just using the “socialism” short-hand and assuming that’s going to be persuasive, or pretty soon it’ll lose _all_ of its power as a scary word, and Democrats will openly embrace the concept without fear that folks think it’s a bad idea.
Maybe I’ll point out the obvious. The substance of government and tax policy under the Democrats and Senator Obama is not Marxist. There are superficial similarities and it paints a colorful allusion to connect the two, but if we want to hold a serious policy discussion on what the limitations of government should be, fighting the “specter of Communism” when the reality of our opposition is with Keynesian economic theory and mixed-market capitalism, defeats the common language of reality. To say Obama is a Stalinist, or some other Marxist denominator, is effectively calling wolf and destroying the credibility of the Right to influence in real terms the possibilities of a Democratic government. If the Marxist criticism was anymore than a metaphor...
Every chance I get.
Obama’s supporters are well acquainted with the concept, only they call it “social justice”. The meltdown at Freddie Mack/Fannie Mae was a direct result of application of this very same “social justice”, in that the extension of mortgage credit to individuals who were clearly incapable of supporting payments of that amount, were put into houses that proved to be both overpriced and unfit for extended occupancy by individuals who did not understand the responsibilities of home ownership. The mortgage holder is not a landlord, and within a year or less, the property may have become uninhabitable. It is not the duty of mortgage holders to fix leaking toilets and broken windows.
But in the lexicon of “social justice”, that if you have once taken on the obligation to do this for those who are economically challenged, then EVERYTHING becomes their rightful due. This is not simply a notion that has grown up spontaneously in the mind of the recipient, it has been well explained and indoctrinated into large numbers of the unsophiticated.
And all this indoctrination comes from some highly motivated and tightly disciplined cadres, who have gained control of certain segments of our educational system, particularly in some of the Democrat-dominated cities in our nation, and scattered like virus throughout the teacher training institutions all across the nation.
What are they then? They are post-marxists, post-communists without a bible or official manifesto, and they have taken over the Democrat Party which like the other party in this two party system stands for everything good and against everything bad, nothing more and nothing less. I blame the two party system myself, but let's not go there until next Wednesday (if we have to.)
How to fight them and label them is a good question, but the Pubbies would do well to refer to them as radical extremists, which is what they still are, labels or no labels!
Hell, a huge percentage of them don’t know the first thing about Obama, other than he is black. The morons interviewed on the Howard Stern show didn’t even know that Sarah Palin wasn’t his VP pick.
Socialism doesn’t mean a thing to the obama supporters, as they are made up of two democraphics:
1. diehard democrats who would vote for Hitler if he were running as a democRAT
2. 95% of blacks are only voting for obama ONLY because of skin color.
The terms “socailism” and “communism” have lost their juice. But not because conservatives have used the terms too losely... Because they waited too long to use them at all.
Ill-advised “tolerance” of intolerable notions has brought us here.
Trying to convince people openly in favor of socialism that socialism is a bad thing is tough when all Democrats, the press, Hollywood and academia have spent the last 70 years glorifying socialism and communism, re-defining free-market capitalism as the evil at the root of all trouble in the world.
We are simply being out-shouted and trianglulated.
Recent polls state that 44% of Americans agree with their right to other peoples earnings...
It doesn’t matter what you call it... It’s dead wrong!
Obama is a National Socialist
www.freerepublic.com ^ | October 27, 2008 | Kevmo
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 4:19:47 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2116981/posts
These kinds of allusions are fine as dumbed-down PR strategy, but when it comes to serious analysis, we’re discussing systemically different economic systems, Marxist, Keynesian, and Capitalist, and understanding this is pertinent to later defining and shaping the future of economic policy in this country.
understanding this is pertinent to later defining and shaping the future of economic policy in this country.
***I understand it, you understand it, but millions upon millions of Liberals do not understand it. So who was it you were talking about who needs to understand this? What better way to get liberals started down the path of understanding than to have them admit to themselves that they just gave the nod to NAZIsm?
(The substance of government and tax policy under the Democrats and Senator Obama is not Marxist.)
I don’t know what planet you’re from that you would confuse (unless you’re doing it on purpose you troll) Obama’s redistribution scheme to Keynesian economic theory. He’s not saying he wants the government to spend us into a recovery, like what Keynes would recommend. His brilliant move is to call redistribution a “tax cut”, and to promise that nobody making under $250K will be affected. However, when you give a tax cut to someone who does not pay taxes, that is called redistribution. Also, most people making over $250K own businesses, and have therefore much more leeway to cut production, or do something with the many business deductions they are allowed, to shield most of their income from the tax man. Most of the money that government can get its paws on relatively easily, is in the middle class. That’s people making over $100K. That’s the real target. Obama wants to tax success and distribute the money to people who have not earned it to buy their vote. If that’s not socialism, nothing is.
It’s the “spread the wealth” answer, stupid.
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