Obama's Birth Certificate a "serious embarrassment" Source?

All the News that Fits ^ | 10/22/08 | Nancy

[pissant]

Barack Obama claims “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation” in the Berg case and has filed a request for dismissal and a protective order. Berg’s filing asks for copies of his birth certificate, citizenship records, passport and travel records, and other documentation proving citizenship in the U.S. as well as other countries.

First, let’s establish that I am no lawyer so don’t depend on my interpretation of the Berg vs. Obama lawsuit as being accurate. I am depending on the interpretations of others who know much more than I, and assuming they have it right. With that out of the way, let’s proceed.

Philip Berg (a Democrat and former deputy attorney general of the state of Pennsylvania) filed his initial lawsuit against Barack Obama August 21, 2008 in Philadelphia Federal Court, claiming Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be President based on citizenship. The first counter filing was from Obama only, but the DNC has since joined in.

Barack Obama and the DNC failed to respond to Berg’s filing of Sep. 15 within the required 30 days, which means they ADMITTED to all the charges in the filing by default. When they did not respond in any manner to any of the requests for information or documention the judge extended their deadline, and they then filed a motion for DISMISSAL and for a PROTECTIVE ORDER.

Their reasoning for requesting a protective order is that revealing the information (birth certificate, passports, citizenship in other countries) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” (emphasis added) Then they claim Berg has no standing to ask for it.

* Is it just me, or does this sound like an admission of guilt? If his birth certificate and citizenship records, including passports and travel documentation, are going to cause “particularly serious embarrassment,” can we assume they do not prove he is a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution for eligibility for the presidency? How else could they be embarrassing? * Obama has already posted a copy of his birth certificate online (deemed by some experts to be a poor forgery), so wouldn’t this have nullified any expectation for privacy?

From the list of 83 charges filed and not rebutted, here are some they admitted to (remember, they technically “admitted” them because they didn’t refute them):

1. Barack Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen 2. Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya 3. Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan with friends in 1981 on an Indonesian passport 4. Barack Obama has asked others to have his birth certificate in Hawaii altered 5. The DNC has knowledge of this and is complicit in hiding it

WHERE IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA? With speculation that he was born in Kenya, is still a citizen of Indonesia, traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport, and never re-claimed his American citizenship, does anyone doubt if this were the Republican candidate they would be spending at least as much time investigating it as they did Joe the Plumber’s background? It would be all over the news 24 hours a day! But Obama? They don’t investigate, they don’t report. Where is their journalistic integrity?

Berg now has filed:

A) A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and

B) A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.

If Judge Surrick grants these motions, Barack Obama is, at least temporarily, ineligible to run for the office of President of the United States OR to be a citizen of the United States.

There are some rumblings from the courthouse that a ruling, one way or the other, may be forthcoming by the end of this week.

Berg’s website You can read the full list of Requests for Admissions Obama and the DNC failed/refused to respond to, thus admitted to, at this site. In fact, you can read the history of the whole case here, including .pdf documents of all the filings.

TexasDarlin A Democrat-for-Clinton website following and investigating this case, this post interprets the information on Berg’s website to help understand what it means.

Americas Right Written by a law student who works in the courthouse where the case is filed; he breaks news fast and accurately.

[WoofDog123]

“I been begging mcCain people to hold a press conference or cal attention to me. What are they afraid of? They need to hear from more of you, demanding to make a BIG noise NOW!!”

They are afraid of the media making a moral equivalence statement about the fact he was born, not in the canal zone, but in Colon, Panama. The law involved doesn’t matter, because the media would turn and attack HIS qualification under the same argument that they would frame.

McCain cannot touch this.

[Emperor Palpatine]

Wonder what’s so embarrassing?

He was born in Kenys?

He was born out of wedlock making him a b*stard?

His real father was Communist child molester Frank Marshall Davis?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[ladyjane]

he true birth certificate will show that Barack Obama Sr. was not Zerobama's father and the real father was someone whom O. wants to keep concealed at all costs.

Good grief. Maybe it's McCain! The Wall Street Journal had an article the other day about a family of blacks who claim shared DNA with with our friend John. Their family lived on his family's plantation and they always considered themselves related.

[maria60]

maybe he was born a girl?

[Right Wing Assault]

particularly serious embarrassment will result

This means the minimum involved is a lie. Maximum, he's not a citizen.

The lie is OK, though, since he's the messiah.

[Right Wing Assault]

Police: We’ve got a search warrant. We suspect there is a dead body in your car trunk. Open up the trunk.

Obama: Officer, particularly serious embarrassment will result from opening said trunk.

Police: Oh, well, forget it then. Sorry to bother you. Have a nice day.

[arrogantsob]

He doesn’t look that much like either. But there is a third party involved whose genes are involved.

[arrogantsob]

Why would you disrespect Berg? He is asking the Court for a reasonable response. He cannot PROVE anything on his own.

[politicalmerc]

You know, it may not be fair, but when you run for President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA you pretty much leave your privacy at the starting line.

You are looking to represent us all. Prove you are qualified or GET THE HELL OUT.

Obviously I'm talking rhetorically to Osama Obama and not you pissant. As a matter of fact, I think we should call BHO Pissant and not you!

[arrogantsob]

And those divorce records had been sealed by the only parties to whom they were relevant. On the other hand BC are PUBLIC records. The probability has become much higher than Zero is ineligible for the Presidency and the Senate and is willing to risk a Constitutional Crisis second only to the unpleasantries of 1861-5.

[Right Wing Assault]

Does anyone know where, “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation” came from? It is in the article and it sounds as if they are referencing some legal docs, but where are THOSE? We need to see the official wording.

[C210N]

Perhaps his full given name is really Muhammad Osama Hussein Obama ;)

Actually, his full given name was Hussein Osama Muhammad Obama, but after a grueling bullied childhood, he rearranged the components of his name. Probably another "embarrassment" t hing for him.

[arrogantsob]

As far I as know state election officials must certify that the candidates for public office qualify. Probably it is like most “certifications” by public officials and is a half-assed thing. But certification of eligility from the Electoral College would not be.

After the state electors vote the results are sent to the President of the Senate, Cheney, who announces the official winner of the election. Presumably, Cheney could ask the Supreme Court for a ruling on eligibility.

As to the past after the expiration of the initial grace period for a potential foreign born president expired (i.e. those moving here after 1773) all other presidents had well established backgrounds generally from families of distinction and certainty. Alexander Hamilton was one of the Founders (maybe the only one) who could have potentially been president though foreign born. But Jefferson and Burr made sure he would not be by exposing the scandalous Reynolds affair.

Lincoln probably had about the most obscure origins of any of the other presidents but even his were fairly clear.

[arrogantsob]

If you are implying a slithering of Hillary into the Office via the law suit, it would not be easy, or possible to do so before the election. And it would not work when the Blacks went nuts.

[libs_kma]

Could be as simple that Mom and Pop were listed as never married.

If so, that makes Barack a B........

Not only a B........, but a RAT B.........

[danamco]

If you are implying a slithering of Hillary into the Office via the law suit, it would not be easy, or possible to do so before the election. And it would not work when the Blacks went nuts.

I agree with you 100%. Whatever the rats are trying to do in this election, if Nobama is removed, it is a loosing situation in the wake as how many top in the (D's) "latter" will be serving time together with illegal alien!!!

[happygrl]

I recall some embarrassing divorce records he wanted made public of his opponent.

MOST insightful of you!

I can't think of anything that would be more just, than to have 0bama brought down by the release of his own personal records.

[happygrl]

fortunately someone else did and they faxed a copy to the aircraft)

Did thye have faxes then ?

Or was this teletype?

Hey, I've taken lessons from Buckhead...

[Jim Noble]

Presumably, Cheney could ask the Supreme Court for a ruling on eligibility.

Would you people knock it off with the courts?

Courts have no Constitutional role in elections, and shouldn't.

The Founders created a specific procedure for counting electoral votes and declaring a winner. The body which exists for that purpose is a special joint session of Congress, which MUST carry out this function before proceeding to other business.

Challenges must come from the floor, and must be in writing. The President of the Senate (Cheney, before 1/20/09) rules on the challenges. He doesn't have to ask anybody "for a ruling", because HE MAKES THE RULING.

Of course, his rulings can be overturned by the special joint session, as they undoubtedly would be in the case of a challenge to 0bama's eligibility.

All of the questions which swirl around disputes over electors and the counting of their votes are political questions, and in more normal times would be considered nonjusticeable.

Since 1954, we've had a Supreme Court which does not recognize nonjusticeability. But that doesn't mean that conservatives should go running to the court, affirming its invented role as supreme arbiter of any serious social disagreement.

Our election are none of their g-d business. They should stay the hell out of it.

The Article II-XII Amendment process is perfectly adequate to this task.

[arrogantsob]

There is not one word in the Constitution regarding ballots cast for an ineligible person. Cheney would “...in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall be counted,...”

Now how the states certify the certificates is not referenced. Do we know that that certification process will not involve the Courts, state and/or federal? No we do not. If the certifications are challenged by a citizen
are you claiming that courts will not get involved?

What is required in a state certification of the electors’ vote? Nothing in the Constitution tells us. Do you know the 50 different states’ methods of doing so.

We are entering a murky area here never entered before and the Founders NEVER believed that an ineligible candidate would get this far. No one has greater respect for them than I and their writings have been carefully studied.

As the Courts were involved in preventing the attempted Democrat fraud in the 2000 election it is unrealistic to believe they would not should Zero be shown to be ineligible. Rude responses to those attempting to reason their way through this labyrinth does not change any of this.