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Obama's Birth Certificate a "serious embarrassment" Source?
All the News that Fits ^ | 10/22/08 | Nancy

Posted on 10/22/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by pissant

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To: PGR88
I KNEW IT!
Obama spent a week with the Homo Larry Sinclair and William Ayers at a Al Qaeda Jihadists convention at Club Med in Antigua! Funded by the State of Illinois!

Either that or his real name is "Princess Nudelman", known to the Chicago Mob as "The Fish". /s

161 posted on 10/22/2008 5:03:38 PM PDT by magooey (Stop the nonsense, fight the war!)
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To: mnehrling
IMHO, looks more like Obama Sr. than Davis.

Well actually he looks most like his maternal grandfather, except for pigmentation of his skin, hair, and eyes.

First young Barack and Grandpa

Then a recent photo of just Barak

Then both of them upon BHO's high school graduation.

Either Davis or BHO Sr could have provided the pigmentation.

162 posted on 10/22/2008 5:12:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: null and void

Yah, hence I stuck with the “J” theme. ;-)


163 posted on 10/22/2008 5:13:02 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: pissant

This is unbelievable. What kind of judge extends deadlines? I believe this to be illegal except if they made a request before the deadline passed.


164 posted on 10/22/2008 5:15:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: pissant

Maybe Obama went to Hawaii so he would not be available to this particular court and hopes that the election is over before he has to produce the documents.

Whatever reservations I may have had about Berg, and there weren’t many, are now eliminated.

Obama’s answer sufficient to convince me the info would cost him the election based on ineligibility to info that would turn the electorate against him and the Democrat party. If these facts get out prior to the election, McCain will win and the GOP will take back the House of Representatives.


165 posted on 10/22/2008 5:19:38 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: danamco; null and void; El Gato; mnehrling; LucyT; t2buckeye; pissant

Does Jerome Corsi have a person that monitors FR.

I have a tip I want to get to him.


166 posted on 10/22/2008 5:25:47 PM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Beat them at their own game!)
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To: Gemsbok

he is actually a freeper. Let me do some digging to find it.


167 posted on 10/22/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: R. Scott
If this makes it through the court after he's sworn in, and it's determined that (do nothing) Obama isn't a natural born US Citizen, will Biden be President and Pelosi appointed Vice President?

Nope, MCCain would become President because he would be the eligible candidate with the most votes in every state and Garner all the electoral votes.

168 posted on 10/22/2008 5:28:30 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

If these facts get out prior to the election, McCain will win and the GOP will take back the House of Representatives.


That’s precisely why it has to break RIGHT NOW before more votes are cast for him.

This just pisses me off no end. We’ve been working on this since February - why did the PTB let this happen?


169 posted on 10/22/2008 5:30:02 PM PDT by txhurl (holy cow - WE ARE OUT OF TIME - Sarah just got my EV)
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To: savvyguy
• He has refused to release source of his ton of donors, under $200.

My guess would be funds funneled through ACORN. Either tax dollars, or illegal foreign funds.

ACORN's the new Mafia.

170 posted on 10/22/2008 5:37:27 PM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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To: null and void

Here is the list of all the things you can do to commit violations of the RICO statutes. There needs to be a pattern which means there must be at least two ‘acts’. Mail fraud is the most obvious one in this case.

As used in this chapter—
(1) “racketeering activity” means (A) any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year; (B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code: Section 201 (relating to bribery), section 224 (relating to sports bribery), sections 471, 472, and 473 (relating to counterfeiting), section 659 (relating to theft from interstate shipment) if the act indictable under section 659 is felonious, section 664 (relating to embezzlement from pension and welfare funds), sections 891–894 (relating to extortionate credit transactions), section 1028 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents), section 1029 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with access devices), section 1084 (relating to the transmission of gambling information), section 1341 (relating to mail fraud), section 1343 (relating to wire fraud), section 1344 (relating to financial institution fraud), section 1425 (relating to the procurement of citizenship or nationalization unlawfully), section 1426 (relating to the reproduction of naturalization or citizenship papers), section 1427 (relating to the sale of naturalization or citizenship papers), sections 1461–1465 (relating to obscene matter), section 1503 (relating to obstruction of justice), section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations), section 1511 (relating to the obstruction of State or local law enforcement), section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1542 (relating to false statement in application and use of passport), section 1543 (relating to forgery or false use of passport), section 1544 (relating to misuse of passport), section 1546 (relating to fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents), sections 1581–1592 (relating to peonage, slavery, and trafficking in persons).,[1] section 1951 (relating to interference with commerce, robbery, or extortion), section 1952 (relating to racketeering), section 1953 (relating to interstate transportation of wagering paraphernalia), section 1954 (relating to unlawful welfare fund payments), section 1955 (relating to the prohibition of illegal gambling businesses), section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments), section 1957 (relating to engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity), section 1958 (relating to use of interstate commerce facilities in the commission of murder-for-hire), section 1960 (relating to illegal money transmitters), sections 2251, 2251A, 2252, and 2260 (relating to sexual exploitation of children), sections 2312 and 2313 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicles), sections 2314 and 2315 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen property), section 2318 (relating to trafficking in counterfeit labels for phonorecords, computer programs or computer program documentation or packaging and copies of motion pictures or other audiovisual works), section 2319 (relating to criminal infringement of a copyright), section 2319A (relating to unauthorized fixation of and trafficking in sound recordings and music videos of live musical performances), section 2320 (relating to trafficking in goods or services bearing counterfeit marks), section 2321 (relating to trafficking in certain motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts), sections 2341–2346 (relating to trafficking in contraband cigarettes), sections 2421–24 (relating to white slave traffic), sections 175–178 (relating to biological weapons), sections 229–229F (relating to chemical weapons), section 831 (relating to nuclear materials), (C) any act which is indictable under title 29, United States Code, section 186 (dealing with restrictions on payments and loans to labor organizations) or section 501 (c) (relating to embezzlement from union funds), (D) any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 (except a case under section 157 of this title), fraud in the sale of securities, or the felonious manufacture, importation, receiving, concealment, buying, selling, or otherwise dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), punishable under any law of the United States, (E) any act which is indictable under the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act, (F) any act which is indictable under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 274 (relating to bringing in and harboring certain aliens), section 277 (relating to aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter the United States), or section 278 (relating to importation of alien for immoral purpose) if the act indictable under such section of such Act was committed for the purpose of financial gain, or (G) any act that is indictable under any provision listed in section 2332b (g)(5)(B);

Here are the substantive and conspiracy crimes:

§ 1962. Prohibited activities
How Current is This? (a) It shall be unlawful for any person who has received any income derived, directly or indirectly, from a pattern of racketeering activity or through collection of an unlawful debt in which such person has participated as a principal within the meaning of section 2, title 18, United States Code, to use or invest, directly or indirectly, any part of such income, or the proceeds of such income, in acquisition of any interest in, or the establishment or operation of, any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce. A purchase of securities on the open market for purposes of investment, and without the intention of controlling or participating in the control of the issuer, or of assisting another to do so, shall not be unlawful under this subsection if the securities of the issuer held by the purchaser, the members of his immediate family, and his or their accomplices in any pattern or racketeering activity or the collection of an unlawful debt after such purchase do not amount in the aggregate to one percent of the outstanding securities of any one class, and do not confer, either in law or in fact, the power to elect one or more directors of the issuer.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person through a pattern of racketeering activity or through collection of an unlawful debt to acquire or maintain, directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce, to conduct or participate, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprise’s affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity or collection of unlawful debt.
(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to conspire to violate any of the provisions of subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section.

Obama and his co-conspirators have likely violated all four provisions.

They could all go to prison for a long time.

Another interesting problem for Democrats is that evey one of them who knew of these violations and did nothing to report them are in violation of 18 U.S. Code 1962(d). See Salinas v. U.S 522 US 54 (1997)


171 posted on 10/22/2008 5:38:36 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: pissant
the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.”

That is not a valid defense.

If I were arrested for drunk driving, it would cause considerable embarrassment to me, but the judge wouldn't accept that as proof that I wasn't drinking and driving!

172 posted on 10/22/2008 5:57:13 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Jack Hammer

no, candidates are nominated by their political parties and the political parties are the only authority that has any interest in verifying their credentials.

the Democrats can nominate Mickey Mouse and get him through all the primaries and run him in the general election and unless some concerned citizen(s) or the media (don’t hold your breath) start asking questions and filing lawsuits (thank you Mr Berg) there is no mechanism to have a candidate even prove they are human beings (as opposed to cartoon characters or aliens)

so now the Democrats and their minions have answered the request for documents by saying that they don’t want their candidate to release these documents because they are private, personal, and might be an embarassment...i can’t remember if this development is on this or another thread.

BTW...the really best place to read about this particular issue is on the Hillary Clinton protest sites...Puma Pac, Hillbuzz, Hillary Clinton Forum...etc. Those ladies are really pissed at 0bama for stealing the nomination from Hillary and are solid behind McCain/Palin.

If you ever get depressed by the news bias, visit Hillbuzz and they will straighten you out and believe me those ladies are tough and they are not going to quit...ever.


173 posted on 10/22/2008 5:57:40 PM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: Jack Hammer
Do you see what I’m saying? I mean, why hasn’t the judiciary or congress jumped in on this? Don’t candidates have to file all sorts of papers and so on?

Remember, we don't really vote for President, the electors of the electoral college do. We vote for the electors, now, but that wasn't always the case. In fact even now, it's only a matter of *State* laws, changeable by the legislatures of the several states. And they don't all need to use the same methods.

The Constitution says:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Appointed!

That's in the "original" body of the Constitution, and was not affected by the 12th amendment, which did change the way the electors voted. (Prior to the 12th, they only voted for President, although each got two votes. The runner up became VP. As you can imagine, that didn't work out too well. There were only 3 Presidents (Washington, Adams, Jefferson, elected under that scheme, before the 12th amendment changed it.

The Constitution further provides that the votes of the electors are delivered to the Senate, where The President of the Senate, that is the current VP, opens them before both chambers. But there is no provision for "validating" the votes, nor for "vetting" the person selected.

Even though traditionally the Chief Justice swears in the President, that's not a Constitutional requirement. In fact LBJ was sworn in by Federal District Judge Sarah T. Hughes,(later to become somewhat infamous as a member of the three judge panel which first heard Roe V. Wade, and as a judicial activist mandating how the Dallas County Jail should be run) ), on Air Force One, sitting on the tarmac in Dallas. (Ironically, she did not know that the oath is specified in the Constitution, fortunately someone else did and they faxed a copy to the aircraft).

174 posted on 10/22/2008 6:11:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Reily
Doesn’t Berg claim to have an original BC from Kenya?

No, but he cites claims of others to have seen one. He also claims that Barry's "grandmother" Obama (actually one of Grandpa Obama's *other* wives, not the mother of BHO Sr.) reports being present at the birth in a hospital in Kenya.

175 posted on 10/22/2008 6:16:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Gemsbok
Does Jerome Corsi have a person that monitors FR.

Ping Jim Robinson, if anyone knows, he does.

I'd bet Corsi himself is at least a lurker, at least.

176 posted on 10/22/2008 6:32:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mnehrling; Gemsbok; jrlc
he is actually a freeper. Let me do some digging to find it.

I believe his FReeper name is jrlc.

177 posted on 10/22/2008 6:36:55 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: danamco

WOW!

I’m really surprised that Google hasn’t sanitized that little tidbit yet.


178 posted on 10/22/2008 6:40:03 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: arkady_renko

Um it’s usually the other way around—the mother claims the daughter’s child—see Trig Palin /s


179 posted on 10/22/2008 6:44:41 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: Dinah Lord

I wonder if there can be a FOIA request for documention of any recent valid requests for his Birth Cert. files in Honalulu?


180 posted on 10/22/2008 6:46:59 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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