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Arizona's birth 'dearth' evidence of illegals fleeing the state? (Births to illegals Fell?)
Audacious Epigone ^ | September 20, 2008 | Audacious Epigone

Posted on 09/21/2008 11:00:56 AM PDT by GOPGuide

Last year, Arizona passed a set of enforcement laws known as the Legal Arizona Workers Act. Before the laws came into effect and ahead of legal challenges to their constitutionality, there was anecdotal evidence that tens or hundreds of illegal immigrants were leaving the state on a daily basis. The "massive deportations" argument was shown to be a strawman. Most illegal immigrants will leave of their own volition when laws are passed requiring them to do so or risk facing forcible action. Make it more difficult for illegal settlers to live in a place illegally, and they are less likely to live there.

Commenter JBS points out that total births in Arizona from January to August in 2008 have declined from the same time period in 2007 by 2.9%:

Prelimary birth data out of Arizona indicates there may have been a drop in the number of births to illegal alien Hispanics when Arizona's crackdown on illegals began in 2007 and just now having an effect in 2008.

Comparing January-August of 2007 to January-August 2008, there has been a 2.9% dip in the absolute number of total births in Arizona in 2008 - the first time there has been an absolute drop in the number of births in Arizona since at least 1996 (Warning, these numbers for 2008 might be subject to change, but I thought a 2.9% drop in overall births was big enough not to be statistical noise). The Arizona Department of Health Services has comparable data going back to 1996. Of special interest are the numbers for '06, '07, and '08.

The birth totals are reported by county. There is no 'smoking gun' association between the percentage of a county's population that is foreign-born and the year-over-year change in total births, even when population growth from previous years* is controlled for. The weighted correlation between the change in total births from '07 to '08 is an almost non-existent .03, without any statistical significance. Similarly, there is no meaningful relationship between the percentage of a county's population that is Hispanic and birthing changes.

I am not sure how much this tells us one way or the other. Maricopa county, home to more than 60% of Arionza's population, did show a larger year-over-year absolute decrease in births (4.3%) than the state as a whole (2.9%) did. Nearly one-third of the county's residents are Hispanic and nearly 15% are foreign-born.

Is there more angst among illegals on Joe Arpaio's turf? Most counties showed a very marginal decrease in births, and five of the 15 actually saw an increase. The decrease in Maricopa is what brings the entire state's total down from the same eight month period the year before. Pinal county, between Phoenix and Tucson, experienced the greatest year-over-year increase in births (10.6%). I'm too unfamiliar with Arizona to offer any insight, but maybe some readers will be able to.

* Growth rates are based on Census population figures from '00 to '06.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbaby; arizona; enforcement; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 09/21/2008 11:00:57 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

The Employers Sanctions Law is definitely working in Arizona to reduce the number of illegals. Even though, to date, nobody has been charged with violating that law.


2 posted on 09/21/2008 11:12:47 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Haven’t there also been reports of falls in school enrollment in Maricopa County?


3 posted on 09/21/2008 11:15:27 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Question Liberal Authority
"The Employers Sanctions Law is definitely working in Arizona to reduce the number of illegals. Even though, to date, nobody has been charged with violating that law."

Thomas in Maricopa County will start prosecuting under the new law since the 9th Circus has upheld it but it will be a messy affair as the first prosecution will be appealed right back up the line to the 9th Circus again.BTW I think the decline in IAs is more a function of the economy than the new law(s).AWB

4 posted on 09/21/2008 11:21:38 AM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Its not whether you get knocked down but whether you get back up. Vince Lombardi)
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To: GOPGuide

There’s a group in California working on a ballot initiative for next year to end the anchor baby loophole. They are basing it on the “subject to jurisdiction” clause that was written to mean it applied only to those not under the jurisdiction of foreign powers. I hope the courts agree as it will no doubt pass because we’ll never get any relief from Congress.


5 posted on 09/21/2008 11:44:24 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

All the more reason to elect McCain - JUDGES.

Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas will vote for ending the anhcor baby loophole.

Anthony Kennedy will probably side with the liberals on the court.

We need a fifth justice to end the anchor baby phenomena.


6 posted on 09/21/2008 11:46:45 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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Anthony Kennedy will probably side with the liberals on the court.

You never know though, he's impossible to read sometimes. I agree on the other four that they would most likely side with the original intent of the 14th Amendment.

7 posted on 09/21/2008 11:51:13 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Illegals leaving AZ in droves ? Hmm.. that’s news to me cause when I go to Taco Bell or McD’s I still have to struggle explaining my order and get used to receiving wrong ones.


8 posted on 09/21/2008 11:59:26 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: GOPGuide

My answer to the folks that say that you can’t deport 12 million illegals has always been: “So deport 1 million and lock up another million. The rest will get the hint and leave on their own.”


9 posted on 09/21/2008 12:14:25 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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The question I would ask is, are the hospitals doing better?

From what I recall reading, the hospitals were going broke providing illegal care.


10 posted on 09/21/2008 12:26:18 PM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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