That is very interesting. Thank you. I love it when FReepers dig in and uncover the truth.
Printing techniques change; computer systems are updated; basic technologies are replaced by entirely new techniques that are not exactly comparable;, etc.
Hawaii like every other state has a "data base" and as requested they spin off Certificates of Live Birth (long form, short form, etc).
Hawaii, like every other state, has a procedure for revising the information contained in the data base.
The result is something a tad more "fluid" than the "birth certificates" from the distant past.
Where did that folded image of Obama’s birth certificate come from? That’s the first time I’ve seen a photo of a hard piece of paper.
The image that was faked was only a front-on image.
I haven’t been watching this very closely so I may have missed something.
Thanks for posting an authentic Hawaii birth certificate.
The Obama birth certificate on the net is as phony as a three dollar bill.
If he had nothing to hide, why didn’t he authorize some reputable news agency, like FoxNews to get a copy of it directly from the Hawaii authorities?
Would you tell us where you got the image of Zero Boy’s birth cert.
Anyone know what the status of the lawsuit regarding this filed by a Democrat in federal court is?
http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2008/08/11649.php
School record that lists “Barry Soetoro,” a.k.a. Barack Obama, as Indonesian citizen (AP photo)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama
The forms were produced 28 years apart and the differences between them really mean nothing at all.
Ok, now you’re onto something. Thanks so much. Don’t worry about criticism because we’re after the truth.
As you stated, the years of issue might be the problem. That and the newspaper announcement.
What might help is getting another Freeper who’s relative was born the same year as obama.
Calling in the Cavalry...
I have not been tracking the Obamanation birth certificate issue, but the democrats seem to have released a copy, not the original.
There are clearly things in the original that Obama DOES NOT WANT US TO KNOW!
Check this out.
I’m cross-linking this thread to the ‘long’ thread.
Please see my post # 35.
It says on your daughter’s certificate that she was born at Kapiolani Hospital. Can you remember if this hospital had been remodelled shortly before that time? Or perhaps the Queens Hospital? She was born right at the time OB’s father was visiting him in Honolulu. In his book he says that one of the activities of the visit would be “driving by the remodelled hospital where I was born”. I have tried to find out the history of the two hospitals but the closest I came to a possible remodel was when Kauikeobuni Childrens’ Hospital was merged with Kapiolani to form the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. That however didn’t happen until 1978. It’s probable that IF he was born in Honolulu his original certificate would look a lot like your daughter’s. The green one in the photo is a Certification of Live Birth which only includes a bare minimum of data. He should release the original long form like you daughter’s to be officially verified as genuine but has refused to do this. Apparently, he has claimed both of the two hospitals named above as the place of his birth. Knowing which one was remodelled could eliminate the other one. However he could be just making the whole thing up like he has so much of his life.
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It's a non-starter. What we should be demanding is for Obama to release a September 2008 copy of his current birth record.
This may be as big as the Rather Files!
THANKS!