Gov. Palin also said John McCain is wrong about ANWR and that she hopes to persuade him of that. And she agreed with me that we need an America-first energy policy that deregulates and decontrols all possible energy sources, unleashing the U.S. energy business.
She was clearheaded and plainspoken. Very impressive. The unofficial transcript follows below.
Kudlow: All right, drill, drill, drill! Nobody does it better than Alaska, if only Congress would let it. So here to tell us all about it, Alaska Republican Governor Sarah Palin.
Governor Palin, thank you ever so much for coming on. We appreciate it. I want to start with this, its an oddball question. I mean, Senator McCain says it's too pristine to drill. Senator Obama says the drilling won't work. What is your response to this? How do you fight back?
Palin: Well it will work. And Senator McCain is wrong on that issue. Hes right on a whole lot of other issues, so thank goodness that hes understanding and evolving with his position on OCS [Outer Continental Shelf]. So thats encouraging. I think hes going to evolve into, eventually, supporting ANWR opening also.
Obama is way off base on all that. I think those politicians who dont understand that we need more domestic supply of energy flowing into our hungry markets, you know, theyre living in La-La Land. And were in a world of hurt if their agenda continues to be to lock up these safe, secure domestic supplies of energy.
Kudlow: Tell me about the world of hurt in your judgment. The criticism of ANWR is - this is what you hear from people in both political parties - theres not enough to matter, itll take too long, and it wont impact the price of oil internationally or gas at the pump. How do you respond to that?
Palin: Well it will impact, in a positive sense, the price of fuel eventually. Weve got to start somewhere. Again, weve got domestic supplies sitting there underground. The reserves are ready to be tapped. And you know, nowhere more than Alaska Alaskans - would be impacted by development in ANWR. And here in Alaska, our constituents, the people who live here, want it drilled. So that tells you that we have confidence in the safety and the responsibility that well see there with the development of ANWR.
Remember too Larry, were talking about a sliver of the coastal plain of Alaska being explored and drilled for oil. Its about a footprint of a 2000-acre plot of land. Thats smaller than the footprint of LAX, for instance. So its not so grandiose an acreage that it is out of the realm of possibility for others to start understanding why it is that we can do this safely. We can have a small footprint, and not adversely impact the land, the wildlife, thats part of Alaska.
Kudlow: Well what do you have up there around ANWR? Is it a bunch of big fat blue flies? People say nobody goes up there. Humanoids dont populate it. Its just the blue flies. I mean, I want to keep blue flies healthy. Maybe you can tell us about that?
Palin: Well sure, we want to keep the blue flies healthy also. [Laughter]. But again, its a small portion of land up there. Alaskans understand that while we have these reserves underground, ready to be tapped, you know, we want to invite safe responsible development. We want those who can safely develop it. We want them to compete for the right to tap those resources and start feeding these hungry markets.
Kudlow: How long would it take? How long would it take? I hear so many, Senator Obama says this, and a lot of Democrats say this, some Republicans, how long will it take Governor? Whats your estimate on this? To start lifting out of ANWR?
Palin: Its going to take at least five years. You know, and there are other areas in Alaska too, that have the reserves that need to be tapped, certainly offshore. Theres trillions of cubic feet of natural gas, and billions of barrels of oil there too that need to be tapped. We also have a natural gas pipeline that is underway now, a process to get that constructed, where we can build infrastructure and allow known reserves of natural gas up on our North Slope - its already there, its already proven to be tapped and flow through a natural gas pipeline. Our legislature is dealing with that issue right now, getting ready to license a company to build that gas line. Again, to feed these hungry markets.
Kudlow: Alright, so now youve got another case where both candidates seem to be off course. Senator Obama wants a windfall profits tax on oil companies. And Senator McCain talks about obscene profits, which I regard as the near cousin to the windfall profits tax. Whats your response to these criticisms?