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Figures. Michelle Obama Quotes Lines From "Rules For Radicals" In Her DNC Convention Speech
Gateway Pundit ^ | 8/26/08 | staff

Posted on 08/26/2008 10:19:16 AM PDT by pissant

Michelle Obama quotes lines some radicalFar Left book in her DNC Convention speech.

What to make of Michelle Obama's use the terms, “The world as it is” and “The world as it should be?” From whence do they originate? Try Chapter 2 of Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals. In last night's speech, Michelle Obama said something that peeked my curiousity. She said:

"Barack stood up that day," talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, "and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about “The world as it is” and “The world as it should be..."

And, "All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won’t do – that we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be."

Here’s an excerpt from Chapter 2 of Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals:

"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be."

Hat Tip Andy Bryant

It's just a guess but maybe she heard it at church?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; alinsky; larrysinclairslover; michelleobama; obama; quotes; rulesforradicals; saulalinsky
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To: pissant
“The world as it is” and “The world as it should be..."

sound a lot to me like "The world you ignorant people have made" versus "the world we Harvard Experts will make since know better..."

21 posted on 08/26/2008 10:51:34 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: jazusamo

Whenever someone says they’re going to take from the haves and give to the have-nots, they mean they’re going to take from the middle class and give to the welfare class.


22 posted on 08/26/2008 10:54:35 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: epluribus_2
"Anybody who thinks of the world in terms of what it ought to be, rather than what it is, isn't ready for final examination." - Robert Heinlein, Tunnel in the Sky
23 posted on 08/26/2008 10:57:03 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: pissant

She looked like a robot up there trying carefully to conceal her normally angry delivery. not to meantion when she said I love America, it was almost like she had to gulp before saying so as if to push down the marxist venom that would otherwise have birthed itself from her oral cavity.


24 posted on 08/26/2008 11:05:22 AM PDT by sappy
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To: sappy

she had obviously practiced the clinton lip-bite, I noticed at least twice.......and I hurled when they started the Stevie Wonder song when she was done......


25 posted on 08/26/2008 11:15:14 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: sappy

It must have taken an army of makeup experts, hair experts and wardrobe people to make this ghetto sow presentable.

No matter. This new ‘Stepford Wife’ Michelle ain’t gonna fly. We gotcha number Michelle. We’re read the racist college thesis, we’re heard the hate America speechs. We’ve seen the hate on your face. Give it up.


26 posted on 08/26/2008 11:18:31 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

the whole production was very Hollywoodish and carefully scripted. it just seemed like a big farce. i could have sworn I heard “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”.............


27 posted on 08/26/2008 11:20:44 AM PDT by sappy
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To: getitright

“woah! you have el rushbo’s attention? good on ya!!”

dang, I laid my earphones down at the wrong time.


28 posted on 08/26/2008 11:39:56 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: pissant

Plagarism isn’t plagarism when a Democrat does it, right?


29 posted on 08/26/2008 11:43:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Beware Of False Prophets/ME-ssiahs Selling Hopium....)
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To: JillValentine

Why do pedophiles give candy to their prey?

CONTROL.

Control of the masses is what communists want. They don’t “help” anyone, not even their own ruling class. They turn their children into versions of themselves, liars who pretend to be helpers.

When the oligarchic “communist” control falters, as in the USSR or China, they have to resort to brute force and mass murder.


30 posted on 08/26/2008 11:50:15 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: pissant; Jeff Head; Calpernia; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; gonzo; ...

31 posted on 08/26/2008 12:02:02 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: pissant

“Michelle Obama said something that peeked my curiousity.”

With all due respect, Suh; the word is PICQUED. It’s a frenchy French word that loosely translated connotates something akin to being pricked in the butt with a straightpin.

Michelle Obama said something that picqued my curiosity.

There! That’s better.


32 posted on 08/26/2008 12:04:32 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: jazusamo
Thought you might want to check out this thread from 2005.....good analysis of LBJ/Great Society and totally on topic here... ;)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1483206/posts

33 posted on 08/26/2008 12:09:14 PM PDT by BossLady (People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to avoid facing their own soul. ~Carl Jung)
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To: BossLady

Thanks for linking that thread. Very good piece and right on the mark. There’s no better example than LBJ as the good ol boy corrupt politian.


34 posted on 08/26/2008 12:50:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

:-(

politician


35 posted on 08/26/2008 12:52:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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ALINSKY’s RULES FOR RADICALS
“Personalize it”

Saul Alinsky’s rules of power tactics, excerpted from his 1971 book “Rules for Radicals: A Practical Primer for Realistic Radicals”

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Whenever possible go outside the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. Maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.


36 posted on 08/26/2008 1:06:02 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: pissant
Ahhh... Michelle Obama did not cite her speech... I believe that's called plagiarism
37 posted on 08/26/2008 2:44:45 PM PDT by xtinct (Suicide Hotline... !! "Obama here" --> Please Hold...)
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To: PhilDragoo

Excellent, Phil!
Really, truly excellent!

Good for Gateway Pundit.
I’m glad to see this on the ‘net.

Thank you for the ping!


38 posted on 08/26/2008 3:47:47 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud supporter of GEORGIA)
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To: pissant
The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be.

Note that Alinsky is using some of the same words, but what he is saying is that, in his political calculus, the end justifies the means (lying, stealing, violence). Michelle was saying that one should be idealistic ("the world as it should be" is a good thing to believe in), so her meaning was very different from Alinsky, for whom "the world as it should be" is a foolish thing to believe in. That doesn't mean she didn't copy the words though.

39 posted on 08/26/2008 5:20:13 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: pissant; All

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From the Boston Globe, August 31, 2008:

[Saul Alinsky's] Son sees father's handiwork in [2008 democrat] convention

ALL THE elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.

The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style. Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness.

It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY
Medfield

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

40 posted on 09/04/2008 2:38:10 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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