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Stop the planet! I want off! (public school insanity)
The Lawdog Files ^ | August 19, 2008 | Lawdog

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:10:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber; metmom
Bump/ping.

Oy. I need a headache powder.

21 posted on 08/21/2008 2:25:17 PM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; AZ .44 MAG; bboop; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
22 posted on 08/21/2008 2:27:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; AZ .44 MAG; bboop; ...

Sorry all. Forgot to add the comment that this is an update with more details about the Dallas school thing that I pinged earlier. It’s not just a re-ping.


23 posted on 08/21/2008 2:28:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ArchAngel1983
Why don’t we just do away with government schools. They are fundamentally flawed and can’t be fixed.

We could carry it a step further and just hand them a diploma when they get their driver's license. The heck with the schools. Just think what it would save the taxpayers if we just shut all the buildings down and sold them as scrap.

A win-win.

24 posted on 08/21/2008 2:34:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
I recall a story about a mother that home schooled her kids. The kids wanted to get grades just like kids in public school. The dad asked the mother what she thought about the idea. She said, “Sure, but it's a waste of time because they will all get straight A's”.

The dad thought this was just a mother bragging about her smart children, and said, “Do you really think they will ALL get straight A's?”

She said, “Yes I do because they will not move on until they have MASTERED the material.”

At that moment the dad realized his wife was not bragging about the kids, but meant that they WERE GOING TO LEARN the material no matter what!

25 posted on 08/21/2008 3:05:23 PM PDT by Federalist Society
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To: MtnClimber
FTA: If a DISD student fails an exam, the teacher MUST allow the student to retake the exam, and the higher of the two grades will be the official grade.

Yeah, but will the child feel good about the whole thing. That's what it's all about now. Feelings.

Someone please remind me to ask if the professionals that serve me (doctors, attorneys, pilots, etc.) are "graduates" of the DISD school system.

thanks for the ping :)

26 posted on 08/21/2008 3:33:53 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime

When I was in high school, I cried a similar cry:

“Stop this school system, I want to get out!”


27 posted on 08/21/2008 4:05:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: MtnClimber

I love articles like this and think they should be forwarded and distributed as much as possible. Because as sure as I’m sitting here, at least one parent is reading this, saying the practice described is completely idiotic, and is deciding to pull their kids out of the government schools.

No Child Left Behind....in the government schools.


28 posted on 08/21/2008 4:54:08 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Just think what the leftists will do if the get control of our health care system. Ooooh my! This patient is dying! It is so unfair that the other patients could get better. We must have equal outcomes!

Or.... The results of medical tests must always be positive even if that is not the true reality. Therefore the patient is oficially cured and the government does not need to spend any more money treating them.


29 posted on 08/21/2008 5:08:25 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: MtnClimber
because those worthies have decided that what is required is actually something called “effort-based grading”..........
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Is this the wonderful “socialization” that homeschoolers are missing? ( sarc)

The government school defenders will get ***really** mad at me and say I am spamming **BUT** it needs to be said AGAIN:

Nearly *all* the pathologic “socialization” that kids learn in government prison-like schools *must* be unlearned if as an adult they are to have success in the workplace, marriage, the neighborhood, with in-laws, etc.

So?....How long will it take for a young adult graduating from high school to learn that there is **NO** such thing as “effort based grading” in the workplace!

30 posted on 08/21/2008 6:36:10 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Federalist Society

Did you read that on one of my posts?

My children never received a grade until they were in college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13.

They absolutely did not move on until they had 100% mastery of the material!! ( I **seriously ** mean it!!!)


31 posted on 08/21/2008 6:39:50 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: MtnClimber
“effort-based grading”

This would have got me out of some trouble when in freshman health in high school. We were required to answer about 50 question a week and turn them in to be checked. The teacher would glance at them and mark it completed with out reading most of the work. Sometimes I would try to enhance my creative writing skills which at times would lead to a less that fully accurate answer being given. I was finally caught, I guess she read more of the answers than I thought. She read one of my pieces to the class and made redo do the papers she had not returned yet. I was doing well on the tests so I guess I got off easy. I usually wrote a much longer answer when I was taking poetic license. Maybe that;s what tipped her off. But you could not say I didn't put any effort in the work.

32 posted on 08/21/2008 6:57:53 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina.***)
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To: ThomasThomas

Right after 9/11 my neighbor’s daughter came home with a writing assignment from one of her public school teachers. the topic was: Explain how the USA brought the WTC attacks upon itsself”.


33 posted on 08/21/2008 7:43:46 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick; Federalist Society

I couldn’t agree with you more! I’ve been saying the same thing about the school system.

In homeschooling, I never flunk my children, nor do I grade them. I test them, and if they haven’t mastered the material (as you said), they simply receive more work in that subject until they do master it.

That means they can proceed more quickly through their studies or take more time if needed. So, I agree that the school system should eliminate grading based on age and require mastery of a skill before a student can proceed to the next level.

Here’s an article I posted earlier this year about one school that has decided to try such a system:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984875/posts


34 posted on 08/21/2008 11:12:21 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Federalist Society

That’s how my mother handled our schooling. She would check our work, we’d go back and do it right. Of course my dad was involved enough in our studies that he didn’t have to ask questions about how the grading went...

So far her assessment of our grades has been pretty accurate. The two of us who are/were in college for engineering-type degrees have achieved or maintained 3.7-ish gpas, the two who went for more liberal arty things got 4.0s...


35 posted on 08/22/2008 5:23:04 AM PDT by JenB
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To: MtnClimber
I agree! Grading is so judgemental and could damage self-esteem

One thing that seems to have been overlooked -- what if the dunderheaded then? brat doesn't have any self-esteem to damage? What then?

36 posted on 08/22/2008 7:05:28 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (The FairTax -- the largest magnet for capital and jobs in history. John Snow)
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