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Great Planes that never were
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| 08-15-2008
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Posted on 08/15/2008 3:31:20 PM PDT by valkyry1
I have been wanting to get this topic on airplanes going for awhile. I hope some of you find an interest also.
TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: advancement; airplane; miltech; prototypes; technology
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To: Professional Engineer
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posted on
08/16/2008 11:10:10 AM PDT
by
alfa6
(One mans magic is another mans engineering... L.L.)
To: valkyry1
It is very unlikely that the Luftwaffe would have come back due to the devastation of German manufacturing facilities as well as their growing inability to get gas.
Had the manufacturing facilities not been leveled (about 3” high) they probably would have eventually dominated the skies. But that is the whole point of bombing manufacturing operations, to disrupt their supply abilities.
122
posted on
08/16/2008 12:43:07 PM PDT
by
TexanToTheCore
(If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
To: Sundog
I had forgotten the XB-70. What a beauty. Still not in the class of that firtatious tart, the Sr-71, but quite good.
123
posted on
08/16/2008 12:45:01 PM PDT
by
TexanToTheCore
(If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
To: TexanToTheCore
Should be “flirtatious tart”. sigh...
124
posted on
08/16/2008 12:46:08 PM PDT
by
TexanToTheCore
(If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
To: papasmurf
"...when men dedicated to excellence took the time and care to build her well." In Don Henley's song, "Month of Sundays," there's a line that goes:
Folks these days just don't do nothin'
simply for the love of it
I often catch myself humming that tune....
125
posted on
08/17/2008 12:10:21 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: tlb; Joe 6-pack; Sundog; SeeSharp; valkyry1
Some of the watchers think she carries the Aurora or even the antigrav fighter. Others think it is a rapid deployment strategic bomber. Fun to watch them try to guess.
126
posted on
08/17/2008 12:21:01 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: AFreeBird
I have touched 960. She is a beautiful machine as are all her sisters.
127
posted on
08/17/2008 12:25:23 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: mad_as_he$$
"If the Germans had been able to train pilots and fuel them the Me-262 would of devastated the bombers and even the P-51..." Interesting conjecture, and while I agree that the Me-262 was a fine aircraft, and would have extended the war in Europe, keep in mind that the first prototypes of Kelly Johnson's P-80 were already flying by late 1944 and would have made short work of a 262. Likewise, the British were also flying the Gloster Meteor, and while it was primarily detailed to combat the V-1's falling on England, I suspect it would have been employed against Germany had the 262 been fielded with capable pilots and adequate fuel stores to become a major problem for the Allies.
128
posted on
08/17/2008 12:35:42 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Joe 6-pack
The 262 had a 5:1 kill ratio and only 200 saw combat. Over 1400 were built good thing the Germans could not train pilots and fuel them. Kelly is one of my heroes, P-80 against 262 would be interesting and I bet those tests were run at Edwards after the war.
129
posted on
08/17/2008 1:00:31 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: Salamander
I was just told by a shrink I am not crazy and i believe you.
130
posted on
08/17/2008 1:02:46 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: mad_as_he$$; Sundog; SeeSharp
I just hope we have something out there right now capable of dealing with the Iranian underground nuke manufacturing network.
For me this would be a High Altitude Heavy Bomber with new technology ‘rocket assist’ ground penetrating weaponry. It would probably need low yield warheads to be effective.
The B2 is not it IMO.
To: mad_as_he$$
"The 262 had a 5:1 kill ratio and only 200 saw combat." I'm guessing that number includes bombers(?) Any idea what the straight up Me 262 vs. P-51 ratio was?
132
posted on
08/17/2008 1:17:46 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Joe 6-pack
Any idea what the straight up Me 262 vs. P-51 ratio was?
I think that would be hard to document and the 262’s had the Bombers as first priority.
And IIRC, most of the P-51 kills on the 262 were during its take off and landing periods.
To: Joe 6-pack
I have looked a couple of times and not found anything definitive. Maybe that some FReeper with history bent knows that answer. BTW that is the Allies number - the German number was much higher!
135
posted on
08/17/2008 1:39:46 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: valkyry1
I believe the Iranians have developed their cell phone system to track B-2’s. In addition, the Russians are suppose to have something to track B-2s. IMHO if the Iranians get attacked it will be with missiles. Possibly a Trident variant that there are rumors about.
136
posted on
08/17/2008 1:42:15 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
To: mad_as_he$$
I’m hoping we have a new stealth platform for the Iranian issue.
A scenario where we have some plausible deniabilty, all their stuff goes poof the USA is as guilty as sin, but theres none or little evidence we were there.
To: rangerX
"
The B-36 was the next bomber in the works after the B-29." Known as "The Cigar."
138
posted on
08/17/2008 2:29:23 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
To: jwparkerjr
139
posted on
08/17/2008 2:37:07 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
To: Joe 6-pack
"
The plane was flying a mile every 1.6 seconds" = 2250 MPH!
140
posted on
08/17/2008 2:49:10 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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